Just realised what I wrote basically sounded like I was agreeing with treating a girl mean to get her to want you more...I agree that negging can work initially, but not that you should always treat her like crap and put her down...that doesn't work for any girl who has self respect and a good self esteem...any girl who wants to be treated badly always has issues so I'd say to avoid that girl! She'll probably get needy and insecure on you.

Go for those who can challenge you, spark your interest, keep you on your feet, make you laugh. But I guess it all depends what you're looking for

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I agree, being mean to girls just because you feel like being an asshole is not going to get you anywhere, and any girl that has, as you said, any kind of self respect won't put up with that. Nor should she.

For me, I'm a pretty sarcastic person, and I love to let it shine through. It's extremely entertaining for me and usually for most of the people around me. I'm careful though, not to just blatantly insult girls. Here's an example of something a situation:

Girl: My mom was being so weird she kept handing me these pregnancy pamphlets at the doctors and I was like "MOM! I'm not going to get pregnant anytime soon." and she was like "I know but it's just good information to know."

Silver: Well in your mom's defense. . . it's an easy mistake to make *give her a sideways glance with a little smirk*

Girl: *little gasp and a smile that translated to "I can't believe he just SAID that. It was funny but i can't BELIEVE he just said that!"*

Just a little poke to keep her guessing. This worked because 1. she was obviously NOT fat (don't try this on overweight girls!!!) and 2. because she knew that I was a sarcastic person and the little smirk conveyed that it was a joke and not to be taken literally.

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is everyone here pretty much in the US? Apart from Tickler?
I'm from London...bloody freezing it is here too!

I feel like an intruder on this site!

I think being a PUA is fair enough, if you're not out to just make yourself feel better by using and abusing, then go for you life and have fun...why not, we're all adults and most people enjoy attention, physical fun and all that.
With you guys, it sounds by and large that you actually are decent to the girls you target and I think that's the difference...there are plenty of guys out there who have no clue, act like they're special and treat a girl like they're not. But if you're made to feel nice and no one gets too attached or mislead about what you will give them, then I say, go, have fun, enjoy.
Being honest about what you're doing or want, to me, is the most important thing...then everyone goes into it knowing what the score is and no one should turn bunny boiler (hate that expression!) on you.

Some guys who aren't proper PUAs (they wish they were!) can fill girls heads with notions on what may lie ahead for them together and pile on the compliments, gushing about how wonderful the girl is without meaning it at all...that's what confuses alot of girls I think...being led to believe it could be more, serious etc. If they know it just isn't going to be that way with you, then the choice is theirs and there is much fun to be had! I love men by the way so none of what i say is to have a go at all!
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Im from Ireland, and there are a few people from the Uk around alright, you'll see 'em around.

Cool...thanks for the repsonse.

I don't care where people are from really, just curious if it was a US thing more than anywhere else. But wherever there are men...they'll be PUAs
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You're kidding me right? You're a girl and you think this website is great? It sounds to me like you think attention is great! Well, do what you have to do! It looks like you've got enough attention already with the 10 pages already here.

I knew it was bound to happen...a dig for being a girl on here!

Not sure I actually said this site was great..unless you mean Tickler said that? can't remember.

I just think it's interesting. I'm not after attention on here myself, not here to pull if that's what you think lol!

Just reading The Game, which I'm enjoying alot, plus I've met alot of guys, some nice, some not, and find it all interesting and educational (!) to chat about. I chat to a guy I see sometimes who is a PUA and we have a laugh about it all, he likes talking to me about it because he knows I have a brain and a sense of humour and won't go nuts on him, and I like teasing him about it, we laugh...no big deal, just fascinates me...male and female behaviour, I imagine it fascinates others on here, hence the site in the first place!
I have no weird motive, never fear!

My post was intended entirely for tickler. I didn't read past the first page. But, like you, I'm fascinated by human behavior, and i love psychology, but somehow this pick-up-artisty stuff seems so wrong to me! I don't know maybe I just don't know enough about it.

Just a warning - Be expecting a lot of naive guests on here now that the TV show is out there!

I didn't know there was a TV show on it, I'm in the UK so not sure it's here?

I don't think it's wrong as such, alot of guys play games in 'normal' life (whatever that is), these guys are honest and open about it..the website isn't padlocked so it's not like some illegal activity going on...there's a helluva lot worse you can do then be skilled at attracting girls you want.

If no one gets hurt, then no harm done, and if people do get hurt, then hopefully they'll learn from it for next time.
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I know that there are a lot of players out there, and this isn't illegal, but just knowing that guys congregate and turn picking up women into an artform kind makes me feel icky.

Take responsibility for your own feelings of ickyness.

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It's because they're talking about it openly maybe that freaks you out a bit...but believe me, it happens all the time, other guys play mind games and string girls along, have one night stands, lie, cheat etc...is that any better (I think not myself)?? This sounds mostly like a way of confidence boosting, getting what you want, being successful and from what i can gather, alot of the guys are or used to be lacking confidence with women, so if this helps, then that's a good thing.

Heterosexual men and women tend to want to be attractive to the opposite sex and so I say, the more guys skilled at doing it in style and not treating girls like crap...more the better.
I know plenty of guys who could do with some lessons!
Not all girls are vulnerable naive little things who need to be romanced and promises of marriage (and yes, some may want that, so let them be that way and hope they find what they want)...as I've said before, alot of single girls my age know more than you may think, but enjoy it as much as men. Nothing wrong with adult fun if no one gets hurt

I like the fact it is an art, a skill, time and effort goes into it...the guys like Mystery, Style etc are certainly not stupid men, they sound very clever, and that's attractive in itself to anyone with a brain. Oh the sexual politics of it all lol!

Yes, you don't know alot about it, so no you can't fully speak for the character of the people on here. Not everyone is on here to get in your pants, your not that special. Until you have a firm grasp on why everyone is here -which varies greatly- I wouldn't be so quick to judge the things you see around you. Sure, there are guys here to strictly put another notch on their belts, there are also guys here who are truly socially awkward and come here seeking personal development skills. Besides, if you can't tell the difference between someone who is actually a deep, intriguing, stimulating person, and some douchebag reciting some canned garbage...then who's fault is that? Sounds like a personal flaw to me.

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Ill give rep to whoever PU these chicks.

The stuff we talk about on this website is the equivalent of girls wearing skimpy clothing and looking nice before they go out. The difference lies only in what males are initially attracted to vs. what females are initially attracted to.


Which type of guy is more likely to keep your attention and company for a night: a really funny guy or a really honest guy?

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