Hey guys, well here is a two question post.

1)I am having troubles going for the number close, i usually have smooth conversation, with my natural flirty actutyd and all that, but when i want to go for the number close i usually just ask something like, do you have a cell phone? and then well.. i feel that when the girl give me the number it is like if they were forced, it is not smooth...

How can i fix that?


2) I was trying to open a girl a few days ago with this opener "I hav eto admit it, you are pretty, but nowdays beuty is very common, what else besides your looks do you have that could be interesting for a guy?". Her awnser was something like this... "well, what do you have besides that pretty girl next to you on that picture? you dont look very interesting to me, so dont tell me i need to make myself interesting to you, ok?"
I wasnt really sure what to answer, but my reply was this: "I have to say it is nice to find a smart girl once in a while, and that was a pretty smart and good answer, not really polite, but good after all. And with it you already showed that you have an interesting personality. But your coment about my picutre is kind of shallow...Maybe i am not as interesting as you are, or maybe I am, pictures dont show the interior of a person, to find out you will have to do it in the old fashion way... a conversation, that is the reason why I asked you the first question."

I think it was way to long and that i lost value trying to explain myself.

What do you think guys?



THANKS

This was pretty much the only thing i had trouble with when i first started off.
I have always had alot of cofidence, but i hated asking for the number
Sooo.... this is what i did

In the middle of yo coversation with her. you need to tell her one of your hobbies.
I play guitar for a band, and we play shows.(This would be somewhere in the middle of the convo) once you get tired of talking to her. ask her if she likes shows. she wills say yes if you are sarging her good enough, then say well we are playing a show next weekend but idk if its fri or sat, I would totally let you know but i dont have a way of getting a hold of you? Girl: Here's my number

they give it to me every time, and i do this routine even tho my band broke up
so instead of calling her to go see a show
I just say Im goin out to eat, and she can join me cause me and my group just lost one person for the night
Its not lying its flirting


seeing this might not be your case, you can use it anyways

ANother technique for phone closing is to get the dialouge going really good and interesting and then start to be scarce. Let her know that you don't have time to be online much and want her phone number to keep in touch.
Wow,, she seems sort of mad at you doesn't she? Who knows? Not us. She may be just throughing it back your way. So man up and don't be quick to take offense. I mean,,, it's like you guys are in an arguement already.

I'd blow that whole tone off.

"Wow you're such a brat!!! Lol. I can see you're really fiesty! So aha! I Did learn something more about you! Dear god, I hope you don't hit! Lol.

For a number close online I just get them really intrigued about something and msg them saying "hey gtg quick, just txt me and I'll finish the story/tell you what that means/give you the punch line, bye [your #].

That opener is terrible. Do not try to make her qualify herself before you have generated attraction. If you use that opener you will almost always get shit back from girls - and rightly so, it's a pretty obnoxious way to start a conversation.

As for number closes...

Make sure that you are getting lots of IoIs before asking. You'll usually fail because you haven't created enough attraction, not because of the way you ask for the number. Generate attraction by telling short DHV stories and making her laugh.

Once you have a few consecutive messages with a few IoIs in every single one, then pitch for the number. Usually it is a good idea to make her feel qualified just before you go for it - if you don't know what that is, read up!

Then say something like

"You are being far too much fun - please stop it. We should take this lovely conversation offline, insert your number here ______________ "