Mr Slice and I hit this student club, which was kind of dingy but had a friendly vibe and plenty of sets. I find locations like this excellent practise for moving towards natural game. You can tell the moment you walk in a location what style of game is gonna cut it, and what isn't. This place seemed like prime Jugger Method territory.

Juggler method as I understand it is about approaching easy sets, eg. guys/ ugly girls, being friendly, offering value and showing genuine interest, and getting them to introduce you to their friends. The idea is you move through the venue getting intoduced from person to person, building social proof and not looking like a creep whose hunting for pussy (even tho you are lol).

So we enter the club, grab a quick drink, then do a couple of warm ups, mystery method style, to get in state. Used my artist opener on a two set, who seemed sceptical till they heard the back story then started to open up a bit. I'm trying not to really neg these days. The reason for this is I've realised that its only appropriate when they give you something thats actually funny to tease, a lot of puas seem to go in looking for things to neg, and while they might get away with it, often it seems rather unnatural. Its much more effective to presume attraction and just offer them value, and have fun. So Mr Slice and I stay in this set for a while, we've isolated, but its early in the night so we tell them we'll see them later and move on.

Soon after this I'm on fire with energy. When I'm really in state my levels of enthusiasm actually astonish me. Its like in a horror film where theres a guy whose body explodes and some massive alien comes out, with tenticles spreading all over the club. Anyway, next set a hot redhead hb8 and a guy. I'm outside so I come in with a simple situational opener about how cold it is. I'm opening the guy first obviously. I find the best way to open guys is to say something normal and friendly, but be a bit loud and boastrous at the same time. So, rather than "dear me isn't it cold?" I was like "FUCK ME, its cold out here!" Chatted to him, he seemed pretty sound, defintely not an amog, although I think he was into the girl. Small talked, brought the girl in a little, kino to both of them just to show enthusiam and friendliness. Started bantering with the girl, cant remember what I said, but got her hooked and told her to come inside with me. I added "you come too if you want" to the guy, hoping this would make him awkward so he wouldn't follow. He followed anyway, I concluded he was an orbitter, didnt seem to have much game. Luckily Mr Slice came over and befriended him took him for a walk. I dived strait into rapport and kino, loads of eye contact, which she gave back, a few iois but not total commitment. At this point the orbitter returned, so I chatted briefly to him, then along came another random guy, who seemed to know her. I chatted to this guy as well, then took the girl for a walk, but ended up bumping into a group of like 6 guys all of which knew her. This was getting pretty hard to deal with, noone was amogging me, but they knew her well enough to keep a conversation going with her and preventing isolation. Eventually after befriending a few more guys I had to eject.

Next set was pretty cool. Saw a cute girl with a teddy bear jacket, did a spontanious "oh my days thats the most amazing jacket ever" kind of thing. She laughed and I small talked with her. By the way, I realised you can say anything spontaniously and get away with it. If she sees that you had to think for a second, your credibility goes down. Anyway, I chatted to this girl, she was hot, but I couldnt understand a fucking word she said. Mumbling to me, so I had to just break into telling her a story. She was part of a mixed 7 set, and a guy next to me was looking at me, so I decided to invite him in before he tried any amog tactics. Got talking to all the guys in the group about london, and reggae music, they invited me to come and smoke weed with them after the club closed. Very accomodating. So I moved from these guys to another girl, then from her to another guy, then finally to the hottest girl, who was in the corner. By the time I got to her half the group had dispersed, and as I was ignoring everyone but her now, soon the rest left too. This girls was hb7ish brunette with a boyfriend...

My boyfriend stratagy is rather than being cocky and amoging his empty space, to ignore that she said anything about him, and start talking passionatly about freedom and doing spontanious crazy stuff. Get her excited about life in general, and exchange stories about crazy things we'd done. Obviously this is gonna make her feel rebellious. She told me how she had once spiked her best friends drink with drugs and put her in hospital, and that she felt sooooo guilty. She also told me she had once been engaged and her fiance had fucked her sister. Heavy stuff, we were connecting pretty deep, by this point I was kinoing a lot and giving a lot of eye contact. Then after a bit more rapport I changed up the tone:

m -- "Oh my gosh"
hb -- "what?"
m -- "you've got pervy eyes."
hb -- (laughing, pushing me a bit) "How do I?"
m -- "look at me for like 5 seconds and dont think any pervy thoughts" (heavy kino/ looked in her eyes while counted to 5, massive sexual tension)
She started smiling
m -- "dont smile, if you smile you're a perve."(finger on her lips)
m -- "think non-sexy thoughts, pretend im your head master or something. stop thinking about kissing me."
hb -- "lol,im not"
m -- "course you are, when I say ur thinking of something, you cant help thinking of it. Think of an elephant.... see." (held her hands, pulling her around, then towards me)"see im conrolling u."

She leaned in towards my lips, hesitated then kissed my arm under my t-shirt sleave. There was a couple next to us, she turned to the girl and said "I've got a boyfriend and this guy wants to get with me." The girl responded "Do it, hes quite fit." Haha, thank you mysterious stranger. Hb turned to me, more boyfriend objections, I tell her that its good she feels that way about her boyfriend, then I start describing the thrill of meeting people you feel a connection to, and the sadness i've felt when the connections fade cos you get bored of eachother and loose the excitement. Made sure I followed this with a comment about how some people had relationships that werent like this, proceeded to descibe the most rediculously idealistic relationship possible, that I knew she couldnt have. Still heavy kino, she was giving back, I was getting drowned in iois, but despite all this I couldnt squeeze more than a brief kiss on the lips out of her. So eventually I number closed her, with something like "I like you, your cool, give me your number." Should have prearranged a day 2, but didnt think of this. She gave the number eagerly tho.

Unfortunately she texted back a few times, but eventually flaked. This wasnt suprising, I think if you cant get a girl to kiss you in the magic of the moment, its unlikely you'll get a day 2 when shes sober and slapped with reality. Anyway this wasn't the end of the night, but i've written shit loads so ill give you guys the rest later.

Again any critisim is more than welcome. Thanks for reading.

Good game !!

I hadn't read Juggler's method or his book. But I used this naturally to develop social value. It looks natural and one looks friendly.

Though I don't understand the theory behind kissing the girl at the right moment or you'll have no day 2.

The thing is when a girls got a boyfriend, (assuming she actually likes him and doesnt think hes a chump), shes gonna do everything to try and convince herself, once she wakes up sober, that her interaction with you meant nothing. The last thing she wants is a load of emotional minds fucks about whether she likes you better than her bf. So if she didnt kiss you, she can tell herself that nothing happened (which technically it didnt), and she will tell herself that cos nothing happened she obviously wasnt attracted, and so doesnt need to worry. If you have actually kissed theres no way that she can convice herself that she wasnt attracted to you, at least momentarily and therefore has no choice but to considder your role in her life more deeply.

When you have a girl wrapped up in the magic of a moment, you can make her do almost anything, cos your communicating in emotions not reason. When the moments gone, and you're just a memory and a number in her phone, she looks at you rationally, and in the wider context of her life.

I'm sure there are a lot of exceptions to the rule, but its definatley something I've noticed, with girls in relationships, or with any other rational reason preventing you from hooking up.

Hi,
I seem to be starting every post I make with the initial self excusing remark, I am new here., anyhow,
I am sarging on my own Saturday nights. Hoping to go from AFC to socially on the ball persona really soon.
It seems that you had a great time. One thnig that I notice by your post is something that I would have thought would be a must- to open loads more sets.
The last time I went out I was quite pissed with myself for not sticking to mystery's idea of opening loads of sets, two or three every hour. I suppose that this multiplies your possibilites of success.
I have had no f-closes so far since I have started my new studies but I can see how I am getting more and more comfortable with approaching and suppose, or hope that it is just a matter of time. I need to work out what to say after I use the opener so I don't fall into the usual, where do you live? what do you do? etc...
I am spending most of my waking hours thinking about this shit, looking on the forum or reading the game. Just trying to pick up more and more tips etc.
take it easy.

Mr E, I know where your coming from, but remember as your rate of success rises, the number of sets you need to get blown out of before you close gets lower. An mpua, a lot of the time, will be able to close the first girl they talk to.

What really matters of what percentage of your time you spent in set, not how many sets you opened.