so, i officially went for a first time sarge tonight. no wing man included as all my other friends at the club where not single/unwilling to wing man

i wanted to keep it simple so i just stuck to the flossing opener, opened up two sets of 3-4 girls only. no specific target, just wanted to see if i was able to pull it off.

i was totally surprised at the reaction i got, all the girls got really into it.. one girl was clearly interested, a petite little feisty blond. only thing was i got to an unexpected sticking point. what the fuck do i talk about after the opener dies down. i tried to make small talk, found out her name was Carolyne, then due to awkward silence we sort of both parted.

i saw her again later, stuck in a neg related to the opener "my friends think you're crazy, you gotta floss before brushing" (this wasnt true, but i had planned this to get her talking again) she was clearly on her way somewhere other in the club but she gave me what i think was a IOI by putting one arm on my shoulder and the other on my arm (or was she just being friendly?), couldnt really make out what she said but she ended up going straight to the ladies room after the quick interaction.

didnt see her for about 30 min after that, mustered the courage to open up another set, but all the girls ended up being dreadfully boring so i exited. then... i dunno what come over me, but i saw her again, we where crossing paths and i did the mistake of grabbing her lightly by the arm to stop her. she clearly didnt like that at all, push my hand off of her and continued on. (any ideas how i could have stopped her?)

all in all tho, i think it was an ok first time solo sarge, as i actually got he courage to open up some sets. and a few one-on-one comments which led no where.

so i guess what im getting at is, how to you avoid the opener from turning sour and into lame small talk which seemed to have just killed the conversation.

ps. i did end up getting a number on the bus ride back but, the girl opened me and she was a 5 being generous... definitely not calling her.

Have other routines and transition??

Have you ever read a book on dating or even took the time to learn some PUA stuff? lol

V3nu

Don't talk bout the opener at all. This thing is just to start. Get some routines (there are pretty good ones over here) and try them. And yeah, getting a book or something will be good.

(lovesystems have one only for routines )

Dude chill. The guy asks for our help, just be nice.

As the guy above me said: Get a book or something and memorize some routines. After some practise, it will flow easily each and every time.

Good luck!

Yea hate to say it man but the arm on arms especially if it was low on the arms is a sign of pity. ep pity especially one then the other. Women do that to each other to reassure the other woman of something. Kinda like guys when we put both hands on another guys shoulders to sort of let him know that it's ok.

Gotta learn some body language man. It'll save you a lot of trouble in the end.

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