I was with this girl and we were comfortable for the time being.

I ask her is if she is a good kisser, and she responded that she doesn't kiss normally, and I go into a conversation to where if she knew how to kiss, and then I show her, so I kiss her.

Later on after she about to leave, I ask her again, Kiss me so I can rate you (I stuttered), she replies, "what you don't ask for a kiss!"

I respond with "WTF?"

I started to handle it, really, "you don't ask people to kiss them?"

She was like yea....

And I was like "okay, your lame, gtfo!"

she look at me like "omfg, didi I do something wrong, now i feel wierd."

"its okay, don't worry bout it, just go!"

I think left her thinking that I don't like her cause she didn't kiss me

was that a good move?

Did you # close, how else will you meet with her again?

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'Oh my, you sir are the Moriarty of self awareness and personnal refelection'

What a title!

I already have her #

I'm new here and I don't consider myself a 'pick up artist', but I do date around a lot so maybe I can give some advice.

Women have told me never to ask to kiss them, and from my experience you shouldn't. If you can't work up the courage to just do it then the timing probably isn't right anyways. Either that, or you suck at picking up signals.

If you absolutely must ask, then you'd better do it..

1. In a playful manner
2. Very confidently

Otherwise you'll come off as a big, insecure loser. What I've done before, and girls hate it, but it works.. say something like

"You want to kiss me, don't you?"

Girls think you're a big douche bag if you say something like that, but it works if she wants to.. trust me. They subconciously like douchebags anyways, as we know.

^ that or there always the "so i'm curious are you a good kisser" (after theres some comfort built already obviously)
And even if it doesn't seal the k-close just yet it'll bassically tell you if she's interested based on her body language and what she says.

Sarcastic comments like 'wouldn't you like to know' and stuff like that are a great sign and opportunity for a quick neg or a push-pull just to show you don't want her anywhere as much as she thought

Wonderful, then that really does mean I crashed. She still talking to me though.

PUA:Are you a good kisser?
HB:Wouldn't you like to know?
PUA:Yeah, it'll help me make up my mind about whether you're a 7 or an 8.

I think this could be used as a final neg, on girls with a strong bitch shield and high opinion of themselves, to shatter the shield.
Opinion, anyone?

Sounds good, but I've said things like that and many women use resopnses like "I like to think I'm pretty good" or "I don't know".

he he he i guess i'm a bit of a good guy in the sense that... i escalate my kino to the point where i've got a deep comfort kino established.... it isn't identifiably sexual, but lightly erotic...

i stay there till i feel that she's used to and appreciating my touch... then i simply ask.... from any topic we're talking about

"can i kiss you?" lol it's fun to hear the on the spot replies she gives... lol then i kiss her...

if she doesn't say no.... lol i move in anyway.