Greetings,

I am having a problem; as to whether this problem is of utmost importance or is minor I am not sure:

My problem is the effective delivery of negs on the target.

During this past weekend, I have made several approaches while out on the town. Some were sucessful, some were not. However, I always found that the reaction of the target to the neg was slightly, if not dramatically, negative. Although I said them smiling and kidding, the target, most of the time, did not like them.

This has led me to consider this question: are negs really worth it? I have found that after using a neg, I had to explian that I was only kidding around, which took away from A) the fluidity of my approach, B) the attraction built up during the approach, and C) my overall attractiveness.

Is there some way that negs can be delivered in such a way that makes the target react to them like they are supposed to, like laughing or playful hitting, as opposed to saying "thats so rude" and looking shocked?

Feedback and tips are greatly appreciated,

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H|pnot|k

Somewhere out there is the post i wanted to quote but I dont have the time to look it up right now...

CALBRATION

amazingly most girls dont need to be neg'd at all... they dont have these huge bitch shields like we think they do.

second is make sure your not insulting... there is a difference.. if your not sure what that difference is... Dont neg

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150 people are killed every year by Falling Coconuts.... 10 by Shark Attack.

I couldn't find any stats on death from approaching a woman.

so like what your saying is that the neg is a negative compliment like wat mystery says right? so its still a compliment that just simply lowers the ABS right? cause i've used negs on girls that dont neccessarily have ABS's but the neg still works like a charm and hell after 5 mins with a chick she literally was flaunting me around at a party making me a status symbol. Got the kiss close and everything. and im an ugly fuck (like a 5-7) so im not normally something for a girl to be like "look at me im with this guy" kinda dude... i think negs can be used to humble a girl even w/o a abs as long as she isnt like shy or meek. otherwise in my experience (really not much of course) my negs work like a charm

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-moony

ya i see wat your saying, i dunno i guess the way i neg is i use it as more of a way to kick her out of her ABS and then i occasionally throw one in here and there to so she knows that its her lucky day that shes with me, not the otherway around... but sitting there negging and not building any kino and rapport is just bad tech. try the neg thing just so you dont get immediatly denied, i use my negs and am successful but until you have gauged your negging abilities dont try and push a neg after the ABS is down. Otherwise once shes off her ABS get comfort and then once ur their build that kino and close that shit either by bouncin, # close or w.e. close you wanna do.

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-moony

Nonsense, I never neg, its not needed, real men don't need to neg. Its for chumps that try to cut a womans confidence low to reach their OWN low confidence. And when a woman smells your bullshit, she will react, and you will be wondering...."www, what happened, why didn't she respond well???" And this is not aimed at the poster, its aimed at ANYONE and everyone that feels they need to neg.

Thanks for your feedback..I really was not sure if a neg was a necessity in each approach, so in most of my approaches i tried to incorporate them. I think I will re-neg on the use of negs from now on, simply because it is difficult to determine what her confidence level is.
Even though you may think that she isnt in your league, i realize now that there isnt a need to undermine her confidence. You just need to simply up your own.

Thanks for the input

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H|pnot|k

hey manman no need for the direct attack, and negging is a useful tool in a PUA's repertoire and is situational... to say that a neg is NEVER needed is plain arrogant. especially for someone who is just starting out you dont say that to them. let somone build their own confidence by getting women, let them use negs, dont rely on them but use them when needed. manman dont attack since thats just not polite, and again dont be so arrogant to say that negs are NEVER needed. cmon man be a little bit more respectful and understand that to newer people to the game who arent confident a neg is a way to help them learn. unless you are some magical guru of PUA's you honestly need to be more respectful man cmon be a positive member of the community not a negative one.

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-moony

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OOPS messed up

Hey, didn't mean to sound harsh. Bt no, a neg is not needed, AT ALL. Just to get the facts straight. Good lck guys. Oh yea, if you ARE negging, and yo are negging for a reason, like with a hidden motive."Ok, this should bring her down to my level, or build attraction." Then that is screwing your mentality and mindset ALL UP. when it comes to women that is. EVEN FOR BEGINNERS.