ok, i've realized lately most of the openers i read here work great on groups, however are not so good when the girl is alone.

I need a few C&F and flirty openers that can be used on a girl thats by herself.
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If she looks like she's shy, how about:

pua: do me a favor
hb: what?
pua: put a smile on your face, <add a mild neg, situational or canned>

the best openers on lone girls are very situational. you also have to keep it brief because hbs don't sit around by themselves for very long. they always are meeting friends or wasting a few minutes between activities. a good idea would be to draw her in and then isolate her as if she was surrounded by people. if the girl is shy, it can be hard to maintain conversation because she won't contribute much. most of your material might end up canned.

dont trust me though, im just some punk ass rafc

Thats a great and simple opener. I will use it in the future.

tip: Don't ask yes/no questions. Asks open ones.

For ppl with AA its better to start talking/approaching to not so shy girls. Otherwise the conversation wont get started.

I have a similar one that I use pretty effectively. It's really geared for someone who is not smiling,,,, maybe looking a bit down. Which are plenty of women who are sitting by themselves.

"Hey man,, where's you smile!?!?" Big smile

"Did you lose it somewhere? Hey, let's check your pocket. Is it in there? Let's look!"

It's a neg she will jump on because no on wants to be seen as a sad sack.

If you have big energy and a good smile it will work.

It's also very open ended, once you open and have "nothing" you can still go down that road.

"Dear god,, how long have you been suffering from depression, you poor soul! Did you know that the in a survey of depressed people the number one cure was jumping into a cold pool a water from the second story of building? Lol!" "aRE YOU A SWIMMER?" Yada, Yada, Yada...

Another cool thing about it,,, you can practice it on almost any lady. Old lady from work? Yep. 50 year old librarian.. Her too.

I can put a smile on almost any womans face with that one. Which I actually do. It's good karma.

Cheers.

what would be some open ended questions . iwas sittin across from a hb 7 who was alone reading a magazine at the library .. i go whats the time with the phone in my hand ... she goes its 1PM .. i say okay... thank you. Conversation ended.

what would be some open ended questions

this one was from me under a different name

This method was one of the first time I every tried game. It was in small London Bar where I tried this one. A target was alone with here arms crossed and looked fairly upset I came over to her and said are you O.K to the predicable reply "I’m fine", then I told her that you where not o.k. she look at me and asked me curiously how do you know that I’m not then. I simply replied your face is telling me, she say go on, I stated that it you eyebrows that are giving it away, you see if you put a hand in front of your mouth your eyebrows tell a different story if you where happy you would have raised eyebrows, she look and the pull a smile out which then lead to the closing of this game.

Asking for the time is harder to do. What I've done once in a similar situation was to ask where the closest Starbucks is and then go into a quick coffee routine. Just make up a story that happened at some independent coffee store.

If she is seated, you have to sit down to continue the conversation or else it's a DLV. It is VERY awkward to sit down while she is talking. These types of girls are not talkative to strangers, so I transition into another routine to pull in her and seat down as I'm talking. Sitting down is sort of an IOI so you have to throw a neg around that time (be careful with negging girls with low self esteems, its a huge turn off to them). After that, just work your magic.

[I have a similar one that I use pretty effectively. It's really geared for someone who is not smiling,,,, maybe looking a bit down. Which are plenty of women who are sitting by themselves.

"Hey man,, where's you smile!?!?" Big smile

"Did you lose it somewhere? Hey, let's check your pocket. Is it in there? Let's look!"

It's a neg she will jump on because no on wants to be seen as a sad sack.

If you have big energy and a good smile it will work.

It's also very open ended, once you open and have "nothing" you can still go down that road.

"Dear god,, how long have you been suffering from depression, you poor soul! Did you know that the in a survey of depressed people the number one cure was jumping into a cold pool a water from the second story of building? Lol!" "aRE YOU A SWIMMER?" Yada, Yada, Yada...

Another cool thing about it,,, you can practice it on almost any lady. Old lady from work? Yep. 50 year old librarian.. Her too.

I can put a smile on almost any womans face with that one. Which I actually do. It's good karma.

Cheers.]
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thats pretty good, ill make sure to try that. [/quote]

Asking for what time it is perfectly fine. You just have to follow up with a routine.
For example:

PUA: You know what time it is? (or something similar)
HB: 2 o'clock.
PUA: Thanks!
HB: You're welcome!
PUA: Uh, I can only stay a minute then. I'm meeting a friend at a coffee shop. You can go to an opinion routine or ask what she thinks about what she is reading.
HB: blah, blah, blah.
PUA: Then make fun of her or tease her.

The point for teasing her is to show you're not boring- that you're playful/fun to be with. Girls don't like guys who are boring. You only negged her if she gives a look why are you hitting on me or don't hit on me- that's a sign that she isn't interested yet. That's why you have to be playful or have interesting things to say or do--like magic or esp reading.

Good and simple especially for day game, love the ending, for easy transition, tnx

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