Hey wise and great ppl of this amazing forum, as i mentioned before if i was a girl id sleep with u all cus I love all the advice u give, but u would probally reply not until u wine and dine me
Ok so here goes, I have been going sargin now properally for about 3-4 months and things are really starting to click together well and I dont use much canned things which can be a problem cus i dont know what to say but just try to stick to the underlying principles, Ie neg for hot women, dont jump thru hoops qualify, and in some ways i think i got those underlying principles drummed in but it can get very confusing and I try to remind myself the best I can, which is why im writing this, and please be skeptical cus then it will help me further cheers. Deus
Ok here is my explenation on it, It comes down to frame, how u view urself aswell as how others do, SO frame means value, value can be social proof, identity, sense of humour, amog, as-well as Frame control which subcommunicates value by negs, not jumping through hoops not buying drinks, body language etc.. so really all comes down to Value
FRAME = Value
The first thing women do with a man of value is either melt
... or they shit test and hoop theory, and this comes under compliance in some respect, but compliance is good in some ways, as there will be times in ur interactions where u will have to express ur interest and comply, but in some ways hoop theorys is a compliance test, and a shit test is to comply with there frame, so things can get rather confusing on the field..:p, I aint been sarging long so id other ppl have good ways to explain it so i can remember what to do etc please send in
So a
HOOP (hoop theory) is when they try and get you to jump through a hoop for them, to revielle needy attitude and weak frame, buy me a drink etc, Basically they want u to comply with them, or often enough just get a drink and add notches and validation to their belt, so we only comply when they have earnt it off and only a lil, or challenge the hoop and snatch it off her, why should i buy u a drink what makes u special say 3 great things about urself boom qualify, but dont buy her the drink, she usually hasn had to say a CV off whats great about herself so she has invtested in u, cus ur a high value guy, this still in my view all comes down to frame, and value
SHIT TEST, I once reid i think it was by Mystery, a women of the age 21 has roughly been approached over 2000 times in one form or another by men, so they are WELL versed in shruggin guys off, AND guys are lyers and pretenders, so SHIT tests are where they try to poke at your frame, to make sure your who you make out to be, my favourite way to describe it is to crumble your frame, they do it to qualify you, in a passive way to comply with their reality which is, im the good loking girl, I have more value than you, cus all guys are spineless. In some ways its almost like a qualification or a different kind of hoop they put up, but we dont jump through it, why? because were high value, again we control are frame, are world and dont let them control it. Altho they feel good with another notch in the belt for validational purposes, underneath they are dissapointed they want challenging. I was playing a computer game the other day spending hours with my mates unlocking challenges, we spent hours on summit thay was trivial an xbox live score or summit, but its cus of the challenge it was there and we felt inclined to challenge it.. which means we invested in it thus giving it more value than what it is worth. Here is typical shit test below:
HB: dont touch me! AFC1: oh im sorry it wont happen again.
HB: dont touch me! AFC2: oh shut up you bitch your ugly anyway.
HB: dont touch me! PUA: Oh right do you have Lepracy? cus i thought you guys where supposed to wear a bell (cheeky grin)
So respect yourself, and dont beleive others shit, because your of
high value
QUALIFICATION: My friend is really crossing her fingers she gets into this UNI to study art, altho she got a few offers already but why on this one, cus sh had to submit a portfolio, which took work, which is why she is emotionally invested into it which gives it value. QUALIFICATION: Ok when I went for my job interview in Tesco (yes its a drag :p), they didn get a shelf stacker interviewing me, they got a manager which is supposed to be sorta more respected and more valued, ring a bell?
Qualifying people Sub-communicates
value.
COMPLIANCE: OK this is more mid game onwards, A girl asks me in a club who I know you walking home, cus she lives near me, its cool if I walk her home aslong as its on my Terms and I dont have to wait around or stay longer because of her, but them asking for you ro buy them a drink is also complience so id break it into postive compience which gives you value and negative complience ie buying a drink to someone u just met, thus giveing u low value, I dont mean this as to an extreme dont start sucking up to sets, But i feel alot of ppl starting out in game reid negs and hoop theories and act like jerks a bit to much, there must be an element of mutual respect. The other night, a girl that Iv walked home about twice because she lives near me tx me to come back cus I had walked on ahead, I phone asking whats up she said her girlfriend was arguing with some bloke and he swearing and stuff, I immediatly say ok im coming now, she like no its cool he walked on etc, I talked to my friend who is new to game he like what u went back thats bad u jumped through her hoop etc, I see it as no im the protector of loved ones which gives me value (correct me if im wrong). So we comply when it can give us value, and generally when it suits us
OK sorry it was a bit longwinded but I see it all comes down to frame and value, lets analyse are PUA.
___Fun
(__Alpha ______________---->
(__ Un-needy _________---->
______ Frame (__ social proof ________---->
PUA ____( ____Qualification____----> VALUE
(_____Routines __(____ Negs__________--->
(____DHV routines____--->
(____Cold reids______--->
It really all comes down to value, and I feel so much more cmfortable with routines now, cus I just think what would a High value person do and how would they act, As much as I break it down Im usually against it, cus pickup is an art, and art is alive, not a photocopy, If you control your Frame by having self respect and self beleif that you are a high value guy, you will naturally express good body language, eye contact voice tonality, you will be chilled and receptive and have interesting things to say, you will brush shit tests off like leafs... You control how you percieve the outcome and that is what truelly gives you value, because your in your own reality and they are guests..
.. Iv gone completely off topic of what I was gonna say and cant be bothered to spell check or n e thing its bed time I am knackered, and will write my short question i was gonna get to 2morro lol. Sarge on Broski's. Deus.
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