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 Post subject: Problem with IMPROVING
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:31 pm 
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Okay, Im pretty new to this (have been reading 3-4weeks about PU) and I many times freeze up.

I live in VERY SMALL TOWN, no many parties, everybody knows everyone, about 5000 people living here, majority old ones.

I´m 17 year old, so I cant even go to clubs. I have no problem talking to girls if I want them to be my friend, but always when I´m talking to HB I start overthinking and start thinking about ROUTINES I HAVE READ!

How in hell I can start improving and keep conversation up with HB without planning it before :(

I´ve been in couple of parties but I always end up sitting somewhere with my friends. None of my friends know about my "hobby" and none of my friends know ANYTHING about picking girls. All my friends all total AFC, so it seems to them stupid if I´m hitting girls. (I mean in my town there are no PUAs at all)

So how should I get improving my basic game?

Sorry, I know this is very newbie question, but I hope somebody gives me some help!

See I know how to act, I know a lot of routines, got DVH stories, but when it comes to general discussion, I FREEZE UP!


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 Post subject: same situation
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:13 pm 
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Hey waewae,

I know what you meen man, Im in the same situation in my own town. I also did not tell any of my friends about being PUA. What I do is take advantage of the knowledge and use it to at least socialize with the girls. This way I get to know a lot of new women in town and they get to know me.

Theres also the problem of everybody talking so I can never go all out. I kind of adapt the game to the environment and make sure I'm this unique guy with the good personality and the funny stories blablabla. And you know what. I have the feeling that if I keep it up. Girls are gonna sarge me instead of the other way around...

I hope it helps you out. Just be patient, your young and only in for 4 weeks for crying out loud!

greetz

Buccaneer


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:30 pm 
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You need to be yourself, first and foremost. The strategies posted anywhere are meant to be a general guide. Following them to the tee doesnt guarantee anything, and will more often than not leave you thinking "what was I supposed to say now?" - such as the situations youre in.

To improve and be more natural, add some of your own mojo to the convo. You dont have to quote the PUA's word for word. Listen to the girl, feel out the convo, and play it natural and smooth. YOu dont want to be applying strategies 100%... because each situation and each girl is different. You have to add some personal swagger not only to make yourself more comfortable, but because you want her interested in you, not your game. Your game is there only as an assist.

Goodluck!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:48 pm 
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Thanks for your answers! =)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:28 pm 
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You're freezing up because all these routines and stories aren't you. Sure, it doesn't hurt to use them at first to get a grasp of how attraction in general works, but they should never be more than "training wheels" to get you moving in the right direction.

Knowing what you want to say is good as you wont just randomly babble on about shit but you don't want to overthink anything otherwise you'll either invite yourself to freeze up if you lose a trail of thought or just come across as uninteresting and boring because you'll lack the natural passion and panache that comes from being spontaneous. As for keeping a conversation going with a girl, you don't want to do this for the sake of keeping it going. You should always have a direction you want to be going (hopefully forwards) and this means the constant building of attraction. Keep pushing your boundaries and girls will open up more and contribute more to the conversation. Listen to what they have to say and expand and connect on it.

When it comes to things like "DHV stories" you shouldn't be thinking "oh i should tell X story now because it demonstrates this, and this, and this" you should be naturally showing these sides of yourself in conversations without forcing it. For example the other day I was chatting to a girl about smoking (yeah REAL "interesting"), hell it might have even been when I was asking to borrow a light, and without thinking told her about the time I was at a friend's party and didn't realise he had jacked his lighter, so when it came to lighting a fag I ended up losing half my eyebrow. The point being, I didn't plan this, it just came out in conversation.

As for your friends not sharing the same knowledge as you, it's not a bad thing! Sure they're not going to be interested in 'sarging' but this has it's advantages. It helps you to be yourself! When I'm with my friends ,I'm with people I enjoy being around because I'm always having a laugh with them, what's more, I'm not hiding behind all this structured social robot shit. Laughter and fun are contageous, if that's what you're doing then girls will naturally gravitate to you.

You're not going to find some overnight resolution to make your conversations last longer etc but as I'll say time and time again, practise makes perfect. Get out there and continue talking to hot girls and you'll gradually see better and better results.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:37 pm 
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Ok, gonna get practising =)


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