Bear in mind, im talking to you guys as a 15 year old boy, not a PUA ok?

Theres a girl i really like, we met around 2 weeks ago and have been talking ever since, HOWEVER this girl just recently (week or so ago) got a boyfriend.

Friday night i invited her to come to my brothers 21st party and sleep over my place afterwords. We hook up at the party and later that night she slept in my bed. We fooled around for like 40 minutes (just groping and rubbing, shit like that) but as she went to give me a BJ she stopped and said she cant do it because its not fair to her boyfriend and shes sorry. She says how much she loves me again and we go to sleep not long after.

Next day (or day after, cant remember) we talk some more, once again she says she loves me, i say i love her and she invites me to her house next weekend when her parents wont be there.

But here's the problem. Shes already cheated on her boyfriend with me, says she loves me, and invited me over again so she can cheat AGAIN but she still wont break up with her boyfriend. I find it hard to believe she loves me if she'd rather be with him than me. Need your opinion, discuss.

I think you're putting this poor girl through the ringer here.

She's only been with her boyfriend a week (I won't get into the idiocy of society, where teenagers decide that going on one or two dates with someone means you cut yourself off from romantic contact with any other person until you break up) the relationship is still in the feeling-out stages and you're escalating things with her and insisting that she pick you over him. Now whether or not she's already cheated on him with you is up to her and her boyfriend, not you.

Now I'm all for getting rid of crappy boyfriends, but only if you've got something better to offer the girl. It looks to me like you're already getting jealous and you're not even dating her.

You want her to chose, because you're so sure she'll chose you. And she might, but if you're so sure she loves you and you love her, why not let her try out this new relationship, if for no other reason than you can date other girls, maybe meet some who don't have boyfriends, she can find out how terrible this boy is, or not, and if it doesn't work out, then you two can get together later (You're in what, grade 9/10? Three/four years together to get this stuff sorted out).

Cinnamon

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how many girls we need to date to know eaxctly who is the right person for us ?

cz there will be always someone better..

i just dont get it.......

Like Style said: "An Ultimatum is used by those that realise they have no real control over the situation, and by providing one, you're setting yourself up to lose."

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This two timing chick is hardly poor and you two guys are the only ones that are being put in "ringers". No matter how idiotic the teenage date scene might be, she obviously agreed with the other guy that they would go "steady"(or whatever it is you kids call it) So she lied to the other guy. Secondly, she's giving you false hopes by telling you "she loves you". Nobody forced her to play tag team.

Continue gaming her. She's inviting you for a booty call. Take part and don't worry about defining your relationship. Just be happy and roll with it. And if you're meant to go "steady", it will happen. Don't push it. Don't talk about "definitions" of relationships as this only serves to frame all of your lives into neat little packages designed for 15 year olds in your community.

This fairy tale, "let her go and if she loves you she will return stuff" is . . . well, for fairy tales. You leave her alone and she will STILL get hit on by a ton of other guys. She might choose one of the guys that hits on her or she might choose this current guy . . . but she won't choose you because you stopped gaming her. And the only way this bird will ever come back to you is if the "boyfriend" and all the guys that will surely hit on her are ALL some typical Disney style villains. So you'll never find out if this girl would be a fun gf for a week, a year, 4 years, 2 days or whatever, unless you game her. At least this way, you can choose for yourself what ever you want.

You don't leave girls alone for gaming her 1 week later than some other random dude.

Hey ALI, when you figure out the answer to that question, let me know . ..

Dont develope feelings for her. Whatever she does with you she probably does with her BF too. So either take what you can get or cut it off.

I agree with everything blazerfan said, don't get emotionally involved homey. I'd just drop things off for a while see if she really wants you

Guys . . . guys . . .

This is a pick up forum so yeah, I'll try to stay within the frame of pick up but seriously . . . go grab some balls.

This is YOUR LIFE. What the hell do you think we all do since we're born until the day we die? We eat, shit, sleep, walk around a bit, fool around with some toys, we have sex . . . can you think of anything else?

What makes YOU UNIQUE are your interpretations of the World, the emotions that you feel, and the decision you make according to your mindset. Every morning, you are totally free to throw the blanket off, slide it off, walk around the corner. You can put your slipper on, you can keep it off. You can take a warm shower, hot shower, you can skip the shower, etc . . .

Think about what I just wrote above. Think about how incredibly powerful you are. This is YOUR LIFE. You have so much control. You can CHOOSE who you'd like to walk with . . . where you'd like to go . . . and what you'd like to do when you get there. This is what makes your "walk" unique.

Now, why the hell would any of you DENY your own emotions? Don't "develop feelings"? Don't involve yourself emotionally? WTF?!??! And to whom are you looking to shift the control of your own happiness? >>> A little lost girl who can't figure out "vanilla" or "strawberry"? This makes sense to you guys?

Look, if you have a dollar in your pocket and you see a stick of chewing gum you like, you go and get it. You don't sit there and think, "If it was meant to be, the gum will unwrap itself and land in my mouth."

You obviously DIG this girl. Go get her. Don't wait. If you want her to be your boyfriend, then do all it takes to make it happen. If you want her to be your boom boom buddy, then you do all it takes to make it happen. If it doesn't work(for any reason at all). Hell, you tried your best; now, let's go get the next one . . . Yeah, let's go get the next ONE of MILLIONS and MILLIONS of women out there.

Isn't that why you guys are actually here in a PUA forum in the first place? If you want to hear that fairy tale bullshit, and live your lives pussy footing around, go ask your mom for pick up advice or toss in a Disney DVD and press the repeat button.

Hey, think of it this way. You're the mysterious "other man" in her life. I bet the boyfriend is some AFC and she isn't sleeping with that dude. Maybe she just likes excitement or wants some soap-opera style drama in her life. Keep gaming her and she'll be yours, but I think there's a good chance this one might be psycho. Keep at it!

Just go with it, your only 15 for fuck sake you probably shouldn't even be on this forum.

hey can you pm me your msn if you have one. you seem to be a natural and i would like to learn from you. thanks

At the end the day you're all only 15. You don't know what the fuck you want and if you don't know what you want how can you know that you love somebody (you or her)? My point being that deep connections such as love are NOT made over a period of 1 or 2 weeks casually knowing somebody, especially at this age!

Sounds to me that you're latching onto the first girl that's been close to putting your dick in her mouth and if that's the case I say step back and move on, there are plenty of other girls out there.

Kasabi has already beat me to it but why would you see this girl as so special? You said it yourself "She's already cheated on her boyfriend with me". If you want a good time then go for her, but I can't see anything serious developing from this one (that is what you're after right?).