I don't know wtf is wrong with me. I'm REALLY good in meeting females from the net. Recently....actually the last 3 girls I met, I put a lot of game into them. They showed a lot of IOI, put away messages up about me, and constantly told me how much they wanna see me and everything. I normally make them wait on purpose to make them want me more. Anyway once I met them (not all 3 at the same time), I had a decent time, we kiss, laugh, grabbed each other hands, and.... one I had sex with, the other we got extremely close but I decided to just tease her, and the other we just made out a lot. The ending results from all these 3 dates?!!?!?!? They all pretty much pushed me aside!!!! I literally ask all 3 after a week of ignoring me why the "distance feeling" and they all gave me the same answer! "They said "it has nothing to do with you (me), it just me"

COULD SOME ONE EXPLAIN WHY THESE GIRLS ARE ACTING LIKE THIS ?????? My theory is that I created too much tension before even meeting the person....Any ideas? this got me thinking to no end .

Hmmmm.... This will be hard for anyone to accurately answer.

Well lets break it down, You have meet three girls and all three aren't replying, this has got to be done to you not the girls.

For the one you had sex with, maybe it was only sex she wanted and know shes had it, your ticked off.

All three girls have lost interest, there's no doubt about it, if they had still had interest in you they wouldn't be ignoring you and what they should be doing is chasing you.

I've actually been in a similar situation before but It was a long time ago and I didn't even know about PUA. This girl I got close too online and spoke on the phone a lot for months, we were really into each other and she begged and begged to meet, we had a little distance between us but one day she came to my town and we meet and the day after that she ignored me and we have never spoke since....Bitch Aha!

Online and Real life isn't the same....You created high levels of BTA (Attraction) online and maybe not enough comfort. When you meet in real life, your back to stage one, obvisually you have game and managed to create Attraction again as you were allowed Kino, Kissing, Sex Etc. Although Comfort levels might not have been high enough, Attraction is only a feeling and the morning after you meet each Girl, they had lost that feeling and just seen you as another average guy looking for his hole.

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I think you might have hit the answer, thats what I was personally thinking. But how could I fix this comfort level thing?

I noticed this happens to me when I create a lot of tension before meeting the girl.... if I don't create this tension, normally the girl wants me.

Here the story of the last girl I met online, maybe you/or anyone could tell me what I did wrong?!?

1. She hit me up online.
2. I played the hard to get role (she like a 9 by the way)
3. Talk for like a week and a half using phone/a lot of internet with webcam at times. (I never talk about sexs with her)
4. I never called her babe,ma, or stuff like that. I always use "Punk" or "loser"
5. She lives 3 hours away but she insist on seeing me.
*after a week and a half she drove to meet up, she came with her friend*
6. Once we met, we gave a good tight hug and smile.
7. In car we kept the convo going nutttin too exciting tho.
8. We went to a park with go-karts.
9. I try to make it fun by competeing with her and stuff.
10. During the date, I try to talk with her friend as well so she won't feel alone/outcast (in a friendly way tho)..Also would like to note I lack kino, i just felt weird touching my target and holding her hands due to her friend there. (normally I hold hands and stuff).
11. We decided to go on a hotel to spend the night.
12. Friend felt asleep, so we was laying together on the other bed, I called her a punk for not kissing me cuz I knew she wanted it, so I kissed her. We holded hands, and started kissing more, then we just started holding eachother and feeling each other. She ask to put it in, but I said next time, I just rub it around her hole to tease her.
13.eventually we felt asleep holding hands and close to eachother.
14. Wake up and got ready to leave/take me home.
15. went to eay in macdonalds.
16. I told her "kiss me", she did. (Tap kiss tho)
17. She eventually dropped me in my house and ended it with a tao kiss and hug.
18. the moment she left, she pretty much ignore the living shit out of me.

So yea any faults to improve my game and create a better comfort level? Any help would be appreciated. It really sucks spending time with the girl and the next day, the girl act like you don't exist. Sorry for my poor english.

After a brief thought over your points above, here is my conclusion.

* Point 10 - You started to loss it, Kino is important and it simply has to be done, no explanation needed.

* Hotel Room - Why did you do this if you weren't going to fuck close. Going to a hotel room to stay the night highlights the fact that either you or her wanted Sex, if that wasn't the case there was no need for it and teasing her, not fuck closing made it even worse and totally blew your chance.

* Why didn't she come alone? - Not only because it was safer to come with a friend or that she was too shy herself. I personally think as I said she didn't have enough comfort and trust in you, If she did she would of came alone and things would have been a lot different.

As much as I'd like to help you Jaye, I think the advice I have offered is all I can give, The comfort area and to progress your game is out of my depth.

Also I feel this is in the wrong section, even though you started the connection online, your problems are in-field not online.

DC

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If you think you dare not, you don't.
If you think you'll lose, you've lost.
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Yea, not gonna lie, without the kino, I did feel a little awkward. But when I think about it, the other 2 dates,I created a good amount of kino thru-out the day (like holding hands) and still got the ignoring from the 2.


Hotel room was because she lived 3 hours away and I was not gonna let her drive back another 3 hours during the night. The reason I didn't fuck this girl was because since I fuck the other one and still got the ignoring, I thought by playing hard to get by teasing her, I would make her want me more (obviously I still failed).

To be honest, she requested to come alone or w/ her friend, she was like I don't care if my friend comes with me or not. I just didn't want the girl to come alone due to the drive, I was also suppose to have a dude for the friend but that didn't workout well :/. Kinda wish the friend didn't come at all but even said, my 2 other dates, we were just us 2 and results was still the same sadly.
I appreciate everything you told me. I believe you hit it on the spot with the comfort level. I just need some help on that department.
Sorry about that, I wasn't sure since the connection started online.

It's annoying tho, how a date could end with hug and kisses and bam the next day, it like the person(me) don't exist. Kinda mind boggling in my opinion.

Anyway Thanks for the infor, if you or anyone have any input, let me know.

Jay, I'll give you a slightly differant angle on this. Just something to consider. I learned about this from,, I think it was Smooth.

He talks about congruity in the testing cycle. Congruity, Logical agreement among parts. In your case you're looking at three parts of the realtionship. Online, meeting and then possibly long term with these ladies.

As per Smooth,, the women will contsantly be checking for congruity, becuase they want to make sure the same exciting, sometimes distant character they met online, is the exact guy they meet, who will continue to be that same guy and not turn out to be an AFC in the long run.

Seems to me, that the chemistry you estalished online was allowed to slip. That has to be carried on.

I think you did well with these ladies, but perhaps gave in too much? I wouldn't know. But it does seem like you are doing well and just need to agjust that part of your game.

Look, you made them crave the date. You made them work. Keep that going later.

Keep up the good work! You can do this. Don't stop now!

Thanks nightrider

Question tho, you think I should continue craving these online girls with such high tensions and try to work on my in-person game to match my online image? or try to keep it at a minimal so they can't compare me too much in person?

make sure the girl you are talking to is atleast 18. most of the times they are cops, i persoanlly dont like online sarging .. its just not me. but i have had a friend or a friend arrested for this type of shit. they talked for a week or so and decided to meet up at some location. anyways. a few blocks away from her house , he got caught, jailed and is now a registered sex offender . yup ruined his own life . my advise is DONT DO IT. stop whil you are ahead

That really sucks dude. Yea I fear that myself, so I make sure their profile say 18 so it won't back fire on me. Thks for the heads up tho.

Maybe its because you didn't put up. I mean, she did drive for 3 hours (that's a long drive for any girl). I think she should've been rewarded for that, maybe an f-closed-- she did ask for it. Also the fact, that you didn't f-closed and she ask for it--- makes you a bit of an AFC. In the show "The PickUp Artist," Mystery cut the guy of the show for not kissing the girl or two girls in fact even though they wanted to be kiss. He said, "Kissing is what every PUA does." I'm pretty sure the same thing goes for f-closed.

Jay that's is something to consider. Matching your online game to what you can actually accomplish and match in person is something to think about. But do what you think you got to do.

Getting better with the in-preson game is accomplished with practice. Screwing up is great, because it means you are actually practicing on a living person and you will get better.

So,, even though you may be a bit behind in person, you'll keep on getting better with practice. So keep it up.

Just keep in mind, if there is a lady you don't want to game, try to keep things real throughout.

In the end, think about your three encounters and see if you can find the point that you started to get behind. I'd assume it was the point your in-life persona split ways with your online persona. Look into natural game. There's no acting involved there. It's always natural.

I don't believe it was the f-closed that ruined it, as mentioned before, I f-close with one of the 3 recent girls and got the SAME result, the ignoring stuff.


Night- Thank you so much for your input. I will try and start low but still getting the date. Hopefully it turns out like this from the girl perspective :"ok this person is interesting online...in person he id amazingggggg" .......I will also try my normal way but practice pratice matching myself from my online image...hopefully it ends like this "He AMAZING ONLINE, I can't wait to meet him...omg I cant stop thinking about him"...I will let you/any one know if interested about how it goes.

Once again thanks

*random thought- I wish I could get a camera to show you how my dates go in person, could see the weakness and strengths*

Here an update, might help someone.

Since my confusion...I met 2 new online girls both HB9. I treated them very differently online.

1. I created really high tension as I normally do to get a date from the net(high DHV, negs and blah blah blah).

and experiment 2. I created high DHV but very low tension, my goal was to try to limit online talk, so she wont have a clear image of who I am in the online world.



First thing first, these girls are both older then me. I'm 22 and they are 23.

I will start with Experiment #2 since I met her first. Well due to trying to meet her asap without making it feel weird, we set up a "random chill" in front of her house.
we didn't have quiet moments but it was just weird due to her personality. She a very quiet person, so I couldn't really connect with her. Her child made it even feel more awkward. So no kino, no kiss, NUTTIN! It was a huge failed lol.

I would love a retry on creating low tension so I could create my own image in person. I just hope I meet a funner person.


Now to my favorite. Experiment #1. After failing 3 times for a second date (details on my first couple of posts), I once again attempted another super DHV of me to get the girl craving for me like if I was the only guy in the world. I changed nothing on how I did my online gaming to this HB9. Once meeting her, I completely focus on my reactions, and matched as best as possible the image I created online. Outcome? she fell for me pretty hard. I got 3 dates and slept in her house on date #1. Sadly it came to an end, today. I believe it's because I made myself look too easy after the 2nd date, which made me look like the bitch. I'm a little sad to have her gone but i'm learning soo much, now I know that even after date 2 or when they call you baby, and say the i miss you stuff, i'ma make sure my game is still tight and not take down my guard.

Man... it happened the same to me!

I get the day 2, k-close and stuff and then they disappear!!! I still don't know how to fix this.

Keep the comments coming!

Yea man, it's weird how they could all be very similar. I hope that I will be able to crack this because it's not fun losing HB9/10s to the same reason. Hopefully i'm on the verge to solve this "confusion headache".