so i was talking to her on the phone and i really wanted to know where we were at in the whole "us" thing and to see if we could take things further. i basically just said i wanted to see her and talk to her in person. guess she kinda got the hint and said that she wanted to go to the park in the morning..

guys got anything for me? i was thinking of saying we should find a good spot and say some negs that she basically set up for herself last night, and then just asking her what she thought about "us." of course i dont want to come off too creepy or accidentally turn too afc. any tips?

Okay man, here is the thing. If you are this far along in the relationship you don't need to neg anymore. That is for A2 during the beginning parts of attraction. And the only reason you do that is when they don't comply to what you ask them to do.

Also, most guys worry about going too AFC as if there is something so wrong with it. IF you are getting into a relationship then you need to start being yourself. Still be confident, and don't come off as too needy so you don't smother her, but don't over do it with the pickup stuff.

Just tell her how you feel and ask her. You'll lose nothing doing this.

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Too true JSmooth..

If your looking for something to say i wouldnt ask her I would just say "We've been seeing each other a while now, lets make it official" easy... simple..

thanks for the help guys. she wasnt ready for another relationship just yet so thats how it goes..

Oh well. you did all you could. Keep her around as a good friend. She may change her mind later or otherwise you can use her as a pivot in field some time later. Her advise about fashion and women might come in handy to you as a resource when meeting others.

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There is no need to ask such a question. You will start dating, meeting, fucking, sleeping and the fact that you're a couple will be visible. Now, if you ask her, especially after just a few dates, she will start thnking about it and maybe she had bad experience in relationships and so on, so she is denying. When you'll get another chance with another girl or maybe this one, just let things to go and don't ask questions like: "let's be a couple" "do you want to be my girlfriend".

well i did tell you guys that i did talk to her about it and that she said that she wasnt ready for another relationship at this time. We still kept hanging out ever since and i know theres interest and a possibility.. what should i be doing to keep things fresh for until the day she feels she is ready? In other words, how could i still be her friend but still keep standing out among the others?

supposedly shes been through bad relationships.. hence not looking for one anytime soon

Hey mann, listen what you said tells me shes more than likely found someone else she likes and is waiting for the right time. Its happened to me before. Bad relationships good relationships whatever most relationships end badly so if that counted for all the girls then no guy would have a girlfriend. So thats a load of shit tbh.

What you need to do is yes keep her around and spend time with her but gradually start moving away, and very gradually, you need to release the need to be with her and obsess over her by preoccupying yourself with other interests.

Do this well enough and you may find she comes runnin back to you.. SPAM shes using you thats why shes spending time with you.. she likes and craves that attention.