So I have this girl in my class which I recently been interested in.

Her boyfriend lives far away, because they are in different colleges.
I'm always flirting with her and she responds to it, and gives all the classic signs: touching her hair, hitting me, etc. I'm not in the friend zone cause I did all I could do not to. She never mentioned to me she has a boyfriend. But she does.

The problem here is, I'm kind of stalling my game because I'm afraid that when I move the game up from just flirting to something else I'll overstep some boundary and she will go: 'I have a boyfriend."

My question to you guys is what should I do next? How can I get her to cheat, or how can I know if she really is interested and not just flirting?

Thanks

give her a massage. if she accepts it and likes it...then i'd say she's willing to go all the way

She hasn't told you she has a boyfriend?

Are you waiting for an invitation?

Ask her, after kino'ing and building up to a kiss, "Are you discreet?" Then kiss her. By asking her that, it implies that you are discreet.

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Yeah, I should do that.
But I'm at a stage where she thinks I'm an interesting guy, often she's the one that comes talk to me, I've the some gambits, and a little kino escalation.

As you can imagine, being that she is in my class and I see her everyday, I have to be very discrete about this.

The problem is, to get her alone on a mini date, where she doesn't feel uncomfortable or guilty for being with me.

I'd say I'm still on an early stage, but there's something there. Do you have any suggestions on how can I escalate more to a point where she won't even think of her boyfriend and will feel no awkwardness on being with me alone?

I guess she thinks it's all fun and games, just innocent flirting, and when I ask her on a date she'll get scared.

Sorry for the long reply
Appreciate your input

You're not going to get to the point where she won't think about her bf (maybe as she's having an orgasm, but even then, only maybe ).

You have to ride with it. This can work out, or it won't. You won't know unless you try.

Think of the bf as a nonissue. Even if she tries to make it one.

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im assuming you two are fairly young...she'll only feel comfortable with you alone if 2 things occur:

1.) you are a good friend of hers. she comes to you to tell you her problems, enjoys your company, asks your opinion on trivial matters, and can talk to you about anything. THIS IS THE FRIENDS ZONE. YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE!

2.) you build up her attraction towards you and she feels comfortable alone with you because it feels like a thrill. she doesn't know what to expect from you. when talking to you, she doesn't know if she'll laugh...or fall in deep thought.


so you gotta find out where you are and where you wanna be. the only way to get to 2 is to be bold. "fortune favors the bold" and never fear rejection "rejection is better than regret". remember this...good luck mate

We're both 18.
Like I said, I did everything to avoid option 1) and succeeded.
I see what you're saying in option 2), I'll work on being more dynamic.
Should I turn the matter of being alone with me in a topic of conversation, not analyzing it but making her realize that there's no problem?

Thank you both for you input

Be willing to accept the possibility of failure.

Go for broke, and actually allow yourself to feel it when you lose!



"If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!""

Famous words by a wise man. Kipling, was his name.

The poem is called "If". It's written as a how-to on being a man, emotionally.

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This is progressing. We had long talks, and we can already see that we're compatible.

At college I'm continuously creating tension. At one point at our conversation she said "Who says I wanna be seduced", not in a bitchy way I countered acted with "Oh, I didn't know I'm supposed to get a letter informing me that you wanna be seduced, doesn't work like that"

Everytime I create some tension I can feel that she get all nervous and starts shaking her leg, and I bet it's because she's thinking of her boyfriend like "Oh man, I shouldn't be doing this."

Now I really need some HELP making the transition, cause everything untill now has been really subtil and I wanna go to the next step.

Everything involving more sexual stuff seems like a really soft spot for her because of the bf.

HOW CAN I MAKE HER CHEAT ON HIM!!

You can't. She has to make a conscious decision to.

Keep up the pressure. 2 steps forward, 1 step back.

Has she still not said anything about having a boyfriend?

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Still nothing.
I'll keep at creating tension then.
Just feels like I'm moving on but not moving on at the same time.

thanks for that quote charlie, good stuff!

and phil...i think ur worrying way to much about the bf. pretend he doesn't exist. did you invite her out yet?

I'm going to. I'm gonna try to ignore the bf issue, since she's doing it too hah.

If she STILL hasn't brought up the boyfriend, I want you to ask her over to your place and seduce her.

It is time you got some booty from this chick. If it doesn't work, move on because she's wasting your time.

If you stop making forward motion, you will be friend zoned.

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Ok, I asked her out on a date to which she said yes.

Now, I made some promises for this date that I'm quite sure that I can comply.. I told her I would take away her shyness in 5minutes and after that she'd be open to a lot of things.

Now I need some opinions on like a checklist or something to do on this date. If I feel like something can happen maybe I'll go for the K-close.

So any ideas for subjects, things to talk about, gambits (I already did the cube and the trust test).

EDIT: Somewhere in the forum is a thread with a 2 perfect K-closes, but I can't find it!! I haven't got much information on them but if some of you bookmarked a K-close thread that you found cool post it. I tried searching it.