For all kinds of reasons I'm after normal girls not HB<high number>s - I don't really care how a girl look as long as it's above certain threshold, normal girls are more numerous and easier to find, I'm not too great at it anyway etc.

So I tried what I thought were mild playful negs, for example I once met a girl wearing a dress with floral patterns and sometime in the first few minutes said something like "I think you look lovely in your old-fashioned dress, not too many girls wear dresses with flowers like you". This drove her completely crazy, and she just couldn't get off the topic of her dress for the rest of the conversation, as if seeking my validation of her choice of clothing. And this didn't convert to any signals of attraction. That was probably the strongest reaction to any opener I made up, except it was completely wrong kind of reaction.

Some other day I found another girl in floral dress, and tried it again, and again total craze. I'm kinda enjoying myself doing that, but no seduction is taking place here.

So is this neg somehow wrong? Any other ideas for non-HBs? Is negging normal girls, or girls who consider themselves "normal and average" a bad idea?

mnnh I only neg girls who deserve a neg...(if she is being a bad girl, thinking she's all that:P)

Neg theory is about knocking a girl off her high horse.
But when you neg an insecure girl she will..
A) get pissed.
B) seek validation.

a normal girl is basicaly a HB 7, or maybe 6 or 8 it depends

with this targets generally a single but defined neg will do, perhaps a second one if the first one wasn't strong enough. Only in 10s there can be up to 3 negs, as when SPAM more there's a risk for her to see you as a regular asshole.

so, neg her once. If and only if it doesn't affects her at all do it one more time. Generally one good neg will do

as myth here well says, 1 OR 2 negs will make them seek validation, more than that (and sometimes even the second neg) will piss them

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Negging normal girls is effective if it comes off as playful and flirtatious. You can't give off the impression that you are being serious, it almost falls into the cocky funny category.

I'm a college student, the most recent example for me is meeting a girl at a friend's party about to play beer pong

I tell her my partner bailed on me and need someone to play with me (very common in college)

Me: you know when I agreed to play with you, I was under the assumption that you knew how to play

HB7: haha come on I'm good

Me: true, I've never seen anyone look as good as you do when they completely miss

HB7: Hey come on

Me: Let me tell you my secret strategy, clearly we need a new one (bring her in close) whisper: It's a secret, I've mastered it over the years...

Let the suspense build up

Me: aim at the cup, and try to land the ball inside it

Is a good way to start a flirtatious little competition between the two of you

I agree...don't neg normal girls unless they're giving you attitude already. Negging is designed to take a girl down a notch when she's artifcially high.

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I agree, I like Doc8's negs 'cause they're funny and also, mildly insulting but basically harmless (no-one's going to develop a complex about their beer pong game).

Some of the other negs I've seen mentioned here are pretty harsh... can't imagine how they would work (though I guess some girls have such low self-esteem that they only go for people who look down on them...).

Dont neg unless you have calibrated it is needed.

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This playful negging of normal girls is also a good way to feel her out, and learn more about her personality.

There is nothing sexier, then a girl who comes right back at cha with something witty and confident.

Also, if she goes with it, and this playful bantering continues, I consider it an IOI. The key is escalating keno quick. You don't want to get repetitive which leads to boring and your HB losing interest quick.

If it is a normal girl with a low self esteem, that doesn't really react to it, then how much fun could she be? lol