Title says it all. I've overcome AA like a champ. And a lot of the time can number close well. However, after that it's like I'm an idiot. I can never get the girl to commit to a day 2. I've tried with 3-4 seperate girls saying "hey I'm doing so and so, you should come along" or something along those lines. I know I'm doing it right, I can just never get them to come.

Even last night was kind of a let down. Some girl that I ran game on for a long time at a social function who I thought I screwed up at the end texted me last night. "Hey what are you doing tonight?" It kind of caught me by surprise, so I responded after I took a shower and said "I'm going to a pregame at a friends, you should come with me." She responded "Oh I wish you would have said that 5 mins earlier I'm already going to a friends pregame, tell me what you're doing after though." I told her we were gonna go to some party, but when I was at the pregame I found out the party got broken up, so I said she should come to the pregame. She asked where it was and I told her and she never responded nor showed up. What's wrong with me PUA forums?

This is like asking why a TV is broke. Its hard to understand it if you dont know what it is your doing wrong. I can break it down to two sections for you off the top of my head - i may have left a few things out.
1 - Your day 1 game. Comes down to your game in general - is it shit or the shit? Maybe a combination.
Maybe your game just isnt hitting it - in which case i would order more practice. Maybe your game is tight - but your escalating too fast without building enough comfort and becoming a victim of buyers remorse.
2 - Your inbetween day game. Text phone game etc. You may have avoided buyers remorse and your game was good enough to get numbers - but does your text and phone game suck? Do you not have what it takes to set up a date? Or are you texting too much???
There are thousands of possibilities to things your doing wrong im afraid. You could do with a wing to help you calibrate. Nothings wrong with the forum.

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go more into attraction routines, throw in some stories here and there and talk about past girlfriends or w.e helps build attraction.. you dont have to do everything perfect 100% of the time so dont beat yourself up about what you think you did or didnt do wrong. so like mystery said, if you say 1 interesting thing, they say thats interesting. say 10 interesting things in a row then the guy himself is what becomes interesting

I have a few questions.

1. How many girls are you actually closing, and how are you doing it? Cos if you've not really closed that many girls, then one of the problems is that you're not talking to enough of them. Not every girl is gonna be into you, so you could just be unlucky and keep picking those girls lol. You can't be ambiguous when you're closing either, if they don't know you're interested in dating them they could be just giving you their numbers to be polite... and of course when they get a hint of your true intentions they're like "oh now I get it... no thanks, bye". They don't say this to your face but that's what they're thinking. Trust me, your game doesn't have to be solid. It can have holes all over the place in all honesty because if a girl is into you and likes you for who you are, it doesn't mean shit. Talk to more girls and try beig yourself instead of using all the tricks and stuf for a while, see how that goes.

2. Are you approaching girls you're genuinely attracted to? Cos that's important. Like I said before, you could be approaching girls who just plain aren't into you - and if they're not your type physically then the chances of them being into you are even less. Talk to the girls you really like.

3. How long are you spending in day game, and are you actually telling them what your intentions are? If you close on ambiguous pretenses that would explain the flakes. For example, if you're saying stuff like "give me your number and I'll call you" then you gotta get into specifics - call her for what? Don't be fucking scared to tell her you wanna take her out, after all she knows that already. Personally, I finalise plans on the spot and just get her number as a way of sorting out a good time... you might wanna work on that, cos it'll weed out the ones who aren't genuinely interested right away.

just a little side note: you should hype up what you are trying to get her to do. If you arent genuinely interested in what you are trying to get her to do, she will pick up on that. You could say something like: "come on an adventure with me, it's going to be so much fun" doing this puts a positive view in her eyes and she will be more likely to want to join you

I like this, here is questions/thoughts:
If you ask a girl for her number she can say no just as easily as say yes. So if she says yes and gives it to you, can that kinda-sorta by construed as an IOI? She could have had said no but said yes and gave it up. Also this is assuming you are getting the number by asking her to get dinner, lunch, coffee, basically under the pretense of doing something together.
What's your thought on this guys?

I always ask them out for a coffee or something quick, then during that mention you are going to do something (art gallery, walk, shop) after and would she like to join you.

I think there is some great advice above.

To add to it taking V1V's approach -

1. Your initial daygame.

It's easy to get a girl's number in under 10 mins. But it's not such a breeze to make them remember about you, think about you and want to meet up with you later.

Mystery says you should always spend about 25 mins minimum before taking contact details, even if you have hooked way earlier.

My personal view is that it's all about value. If you have enough value, she WILL want to go out with you. Don't just be satisfied with her digits. Keep on conveying value and building attraction. You also need to plant the seed more, like earlier in the sarge say things like 'omg if I took you out you'd totally goof out on me!' And shit like that to presuppose that you two will meet up. Eventually the idea will build in her head.

If possible, set up a date there and then. It doesn't have to be insta-date, although these are great. But get her to agree on a day 2 before you take contact details. This will reduce chances of flaking, but you need to build comfort and show that you are a genuine, safe and exciting person to be with. Giving your time to her is something PRECIOUS. She has to understand and appreciate that.

Also, calibration is important. If you think things are going well, go all the way. Set up a proper date with a time and place. If you don't, you need to sarge on. Day 2's take more effort to get than mere numbers. They are not the same thing.

2. About the girl you texted you.

When a random girl texts you like that, it usually means she wants to hook up. So going to loads of LONG ASS parties and shit is not always the best thing to do. I often give girls a choice. Sure it's good to be decisive and controlling the frame, but there's no point taking a shot in the dark if you don't know their real intentions. If a girl just wants to fuck oftentimes she will NOT BE BOTHERED to pay for drinks, get her feet aching, go out, pay for petrol or bus fares, bring friends or all that schmizzle. SO just say:

"Well there's two things I want to do right now. Go to this party and have bags of fun or have a nice chillout time at my place. Which answer is correct, A or B?"

This way you're pressurizing her to get it right so you it opens up teasing avenues later. You don't have to say aloud that you're going to do whatever with her - that will come in the subcommunication. In fact she will probably ask herself. Besides, if she confirms it rather than you, there is way less chance of flaking.

Hope this helps dude!

Thank you for all the info guys. I think I just haven't been able to build enough comfort with the girls before I text them for a day2. I've been so amazed at how I've gotten over my AA and been able to get numbers with confidence that I kind of just rush it.

Here's one question for you. During your sarge, just before you left her, did you leave her on a high note, or just a mediocre one? That can make all the difference as well in whether she'll want to spend more time with you. Don't forget that mystery *not the person, the feeling* can be your best wing as well on an approach.