Last night, I was out dancing at a club. got to dance with maybe 5-6 girls during the dancing. but almost every time, I guess her girl friend pulled her away when we started dancing close and like turned around, so that she(the one who pulled her away) had the back against me and was maybe a foot or so away from me. Jeez I got frustrated when this happened for the 3rd or 4th time, just wanted to punch the stupid bitch in the back of her head but im a "nice guy" and all, so i didnt do that.....
but how should I respond to this, and what does it mean? is it like a shit test to see if you start rubbing against them too?

+ it was this fucking asshole, who stole 3 girls or so from me, think he was a friend of them, they all seemed like a set. then I bumped into him all the time and just ignored him when he looked at me, just had him in the corner of my eye. I could see the prick got really pissed off, hahahaha. probably not the best way to solve this, but goddamn, it was satisfying seeing him get more and more pissed

but what would you guys do in a situation like this?

I am also intrigued by this problem.
A great deal of people who get in to PU are people who are the not the alphas in the club; or the best looking guy on the dance floor.
The techniques we use are mostly verbal and are therefore hard to use in a loud club.
Personally I avoid the dance floor (mainly because I'm a straight white guy and therefore SUCK at dancing), but I'm sure there are things that can be done...

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Best line ever!!!!!!

you need wingmen who can handle the other women.
unless there are three of them. then the other two can dance with each other. look like you are having fun, then give a high five when she does grab her hand and initiate the twirl move, but hold on her hand and keep dancing with her.
Make sure she faces you for a second, and just swing her hand side to side with the beat of the music as you hold on to it..then do a half twirl so her back will be towards you so you can grind on her. then twirl her again to face you and initiate kiss

grinding is tacky. But -- you might have done better with some push-pull. The best way to physically escalate is to take two steps forward and one step back.
This is what happens when you ignore the guys in a mixed-gender set. The idea is to win him over (by giving him some respect) and then he won't be an obstacle anymore. It seems like you went for your 'target' while ignoring everyone else in the set (and girls who appear to be alone almost ALWAYS have friends around that you just don't see -- i.e., in the bathroom)
Approach the set, neg/attract the female obstacles, give some respect to the male obstacles, and never walk onto the dance floor.

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hmmm,okay,its gonna be a while before im able to do anything like that,but thanks for the answer. at the moment, Im mostly working on my confidence and apporachings, so those steps are waaaay down the line. maybe the best thing I could do was to just annoy him anyway then, hahaha.

hahaha, thanks man. it sounded like im kinda wifebeater or something when I read it after I posted it,but im really not, just was frustrated

It's because you came off as creepy and her friend was saving her from the creepy guy. Then you went and did it with 5 more girls in their friendship group. Don't be creepy.

How to not be creepy? Go out with friends.. dance with them and then set-merge.. get one of your chick friends (pivot) to start dancing with one of the guys. There's lots of other ways.. go researching club game.. it's in the newbie FAQ.
Not necessarily.. it could be an IOI.. or she could just be really drunk.

But, if you push her away gentley, you'll get her coming back for more.
I know traditional theory says to ingratiate yourself with the friends, because otherwise they'll do their best to block you out, but it IS okay to ignore them as well.. particularly the so-called Alpha Males. In fact, the best way to deal with an AMOG is to ignore him. Most importantly, do not act like anything is getting to you. In your reality, you're the alpha male. act like it.

I could go on, but I cbf.

You were creepy. It's not the girls fault that they had to block you out, it was yours.

- Dex

I think u misunderstood me. maybe I didnt explain it good enough.
I didnt dance with 5-6 girls in the same group, they were spread across the dancefloor, its not likely that they all knew each other.(exept the ones who the guy stole maybe) it was different girls every time who pulled away the girl I danced with and got in their place.
and I dont think it was any IOI. unless they are real jerks to their friends, they wont pull her away so they can dance with me instead. it was after the girl started to dance closer to me that they pulled her away. at least a couple of the times at least

and it was no ignoring tactic against the guy on the dancefloor, just to piss him off. bump into him and ignore him when he looked at me. it didnt increase my chances with the girls when I did that Im sure of,but at that point, I had given them up. just wanted to kinda get back at the guy.

No, I don't think you understood me. I will use smaller words
Cool. It really doesn't matter.
Cool. You came off as creepy. Ways to get around this:

1) you can try winning the friends over. Dance with the obstacles before you dance with the target
2) My preferred way.. make it so that the target does NOT let their friend get in their way. If the target lets the friend do that, they are not interested because you are coming off as creepy.
That is so not alpha behaviour.

1) By trying to 'get even' with the guy, all you're showing is that the guy has bested you.

2) Alphas don't get bested and so they don't acknowledge the case where it happens

3) You 'ignore' him when he looks at you? You mean you're afraid to look him in the eye.

4) Control your frame. Don't get pissy at some guy who's just having a good time because you're the creep guy that's getting rejected by chicks.


Overall advice

1) Work on your inner game. Don't let things bother you. become alpha.
2) Don't be creepy. Take a step back and look at what you're doing that might set alarm bells off to a HB and her friends

- Dex

I just noticed this by the way...

You're capitulating.

"I didn't explain it good enough"

not alpha.

- Dex

I don't think what you're doing is constructive. Showing interest for your target and ignoring the rest of a set is not something a PUA does, ever. What you are doing is typical AFC behavior -- and you won't have much luck if you keep on your present course (at least not with any type of consistency). It's not about being easy or hard, it's about doing what works vs. doing what doesn't work.

If you want to start with something basic, practice opening sets and just keeping their attention and interest for several minutes. THEN work on attracting, isolating, generating comfort and then closing. Approaches only count if you can keep everyone in the set engaged.

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I know very well that this is not something a PUA or alpha would do. but Ive only just begun reading about this and arent close to be able to do things like managing to keep a whole set entertained and shit, and definetly not on the dancefloor. I still have som AA that I must overcome, so Im mostly focusing on confidence building and approaching girls. if I try to bite over more than that now, its just gonna be too much. but thanx for the advices guys, Ill look into it!

and NO, it wasnt that I was afraid of looking him in the eye. had I done that, I think he would start a fight or something pretty soon,but since I just ignored him, he seemed a little confused and frustrated,because he didnt know what to do or whatever. but youre right when u say that he was just a guy having fun because of me creeping his girlfriends out. good point.....

but how would you show both or all women interest without making it seem like u are just hitting on every girl in the set? if it has been discussed before, could you just provide a link or something?
cant find anything about that in the newbie guide.

You just contradicted yourself. You're -afraid- he's going to start a fight. And I'm not trying to insult your ego - I'm sure you're a very brave guy - but it's what is going to show in your body language.

Meeting someone in the eye is an alpha quality. Looking away is capitulating

Now obviously if you looked him in the eye he was going to start a fight.. but let's face it, you were being a jerk. You agree with me:
It's cool.. we all have jerk moments.. we get frustrated and we take it out on whoever is convenient. Sometimes it's saying "all women are bitches", even though you don't REALLY mean it.. sometimes it's going "that guy is an asshole because he stole my chicks".

Just learn to control your frame. Don't let the guy's or the girl's behaviour affect you like that. Girls rejected you? So what? take a look at your behaviour and see if you can figure out WHY they're rejecting you. Why is what the other guy doing working and what you're doing not?
This is where disqualifying statements come in handy. Things like False Time Constraints (FTC) and telegraphing disinterest..

you can look it up, but an FTC is when you say something like "hey guys, I have to go rejoin my friends in a sec...", it makes them stop thinking "great.. how long is this guy going to hang around?"

Telegraphing disinterest might be something like a neg, saying something like "if I wasn't gay, you'd totally be mine", "Sure, yeah, you're cute.. what's your friend's name?", etc.
Actually you can do this and succeed, though probably not recommended at his level.

Why does this work? Because an alpha male goes after what he wants and ignores any obstacles along the way. That's right, ignores. Or at least, this is the mindset. To an alpha, who dominates EVERYTHING (and not just women), there's no such thing as obstacles.

He just does what he wants, which includes getting the women he wants. People respect that kind of authority and so when you ignore the others in a set while projecting this authority, people will be afraid to interrupt you.

While this is far far down the track for most people, think of it as your goal and start adopting the characteristics that you can.

- Don't let little things bother you
- Go talk to the girls you want to talk to
- Don't get phased by other guys trying to AMOG you. They're beneath you, remember?

- Dex

thanx, dex, for all the good advices. Ill keep in mind not being so affected by what happens during the night. thats probably the most important right now. but all in all, Im very pleased with how the rest of the night went. talked to alot of girls, got invited to a nachspiel(afterparty??) by a girl I didnt know, (where I was the center of attention alot of the time), and had the chance f-close an average looking girl. and thats a HUGE leap for me.

but I meant, how would you show interest to all the girls in a set when dancing without it looking like your just hitting on everybody? when you cant say anything to them, just have to do it with dancing and body language?
because you said that ignoring the friends of the girl Im dancing with is no good.