I have been reading up and listening a lot to the work of Johnny Soporno and AFC Adam Lyons of late, and have found that they recomend talking to girls about game...

I met a HB8 for drinks the other day, (nothing is particularly happening between us although it has before , she has a bf and im not interested in breaking them up, so i thought i would grill her on game from one mate to another to get the veiw of the opposite sex...

I started with one of Adams techniques...

HB - what have you been up to i havent seen you in ages?
ME - well, i have been studying something but you will find it silly
HB - tell me tell me tell me!
ME - well, i noticed that girls have cosmo to learn about guys getting them and keeping them and guys dont have that? we have - make love like a pornstar in nuts or zoo, so i started to sudy relationships online and became part of a community, see its silly!?
HB - wow, really?!! what did you find out (genuinely interested)
ME - did you know what an indirect or opinion opener was...whats social proof and why is it important...kino...ioi's

I went on to explain Johnny's slut's and whore's paradigm, which she also was facinated by... (this is very hard to explain, thankfully i practiced this a lot before trying it on anyone - she was the first)

Basically i kept it all very bottom line, but after an hour of us chatting, she was keen on meeting and winging with me and putting it into practice, she was also really keen to see how girls reacted if i walked up with her on my arm as i explained it would disarm them as they would asume we were a couple... And - I CANT EXPLAIN THE CONSTANT IOI'S!! It was truly amazing, and i will use as a mid game attraction builder going forward all the time.

Women love talking about relationships, so use all you learn on here!!

Cheers,

CHLLXX

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This seems like it might be a good idea but it could backfire. If they hear you talking about game, they might think you're a "player" and that you use these tactics all the time to attract new girls at a crazy rate.

Being able to attract women is HV, tactics or not. I think its a great conversation also, maybe the most interesting thing you can say with a stranger. I always talk about this in comfort, and it has never failed me, sometimes i even get demonstration requests, which is fine because i can use the target as a totally conscious wing.

I think that if done correctly, this could be effective.

First of all, tell her about theory, not tactics. When discussing things like freeze out techniques or opinion openers, or talking about "obstacles", you sound like a socially maladjusted con artist. Also I don't know if its a good idea to say you go on a forum and discuss PUA with others. It might sound like "plotting" to them.

However, if you tell her about the anti-slut defence or kino and even negs and LMR, if done correctly, it demonstrates that you get it. You know how things work. You are socially intelligent. And that's attractive. Also, she can probably relate to things like LMR and the anti-slut defense.

Of course girls are interested in this stuff. That's why they buy cosmo. They thrive on social interaction.

I was explaining some theories to a female friend of mind also (not gaming her) and she was very interested. Later on she even said I'd "matured" alot over the past few weeks. Meanwhile I knew I hadn't been acting any differently, I just displayed my understanding of social interaction and it gave me value.

Anyways in short, if used correctly, discussing PUA theory could bring up your value. Give it a try. I'm definitely going to feild test this.

okay, I can actually speak with some authority on this topic. Did it three times so far, worked 100%.

Story 1: Target, HB9, red hair. I ran out of things to talk about, and she knew I am a Communication major. She asked a question, I steered it to social interaction, then to male/female interaction, actually discussed tactics (so, that throws out Sheer Con's non-tested supposition) and theory, she wanted a demonstration, so I demonstrated some tactics for her, found out that she was writing a book about being a wingman. She ended up in my room about an hour later.

So, you can say maybe that test was 'contaminated,' though all of my tactics, even the simplest of stuff was new to her. She may have been looking for new material to employ for material for her book.

Story 2: I was on a date with a girl from History class. Again, ran out of things to talk about and she knew I was studying Communication (seeing a theme here?). Again with the logical progression to discussing game, tactics and theory (again, tactics wasnt a big deal, just cant be wierd). I another demonstration, and then I broke down how I approached her. This told her things about herself, and built value. She came home with me 45 minutes later. The HB9 was an accident. This one was an experiment. The next one was the validation.

Story 3:I was with a friend that Ive known and lost touch with. She used to be an HB9, now is more of an 8. For once, I hadnt run out of things to talk about, but brought it up when she asked what Ive been up to. Now, I dont talk complex theory or tactics. I talk basics, cause if I go around telling every woman the details of the tricks, eventually, Im gonna have to make new ones cause everyone will know them. The bars are sadly not crowded enough at this university. She had been attracted to me when we were sophomores (three years ago) and had a boy. We had talked before, but never did I get any IOIs what-so-ever. During this conversation, I did get IOIs. She told me that she used to like me, and then went fishing to see what could happen nowadays.

This is field tested, and it works, if its casual and treated as essentially, a game. I read somewhere that women like to be seduced, and even when the process is explained to them, it still seems to work. Of course, as previously mentioned, Im not gonna go and tell every girl about game, for obvious reasons. Im not going to tell them I joined a forum. I would tell them Ive read The Art of Seduction and related books (for some reason I cant bring myself to mention Strauss' books). Ive even gone so far as to explain AMOGing to some extent and break down a guys approach when he tried to break into my two set. (he entered at a very convenient time, and I felt like I was hitting a baby)

And there is my experience with this particular routine. I only use it with girls I already know or to save my ass with something interesting to talk about.

this is somthing that ive really been intrested in doing but havnt had much success with it. Theres is some good insight here ill have to test some of these out. Thanks for the insight guys.

Yep, the key is to talk basics, bottom line, and not to go into the detail where she thinks you have joined a cult!!

Good luck field testing this one, keep in touch with updates,

CHLLXX

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I was explaining AMOGing to a girl on Saturday, basically there was a group of about 5 of us and this guy came over and was being a bit of an ass, she turned to me and said "Help!" so I responded "Ok, watch" went over and completely cut him out of the group, acted like his best friend in the world then said "ok cool, nice to meet you mate, catch you later" and the girl then messed it up somehow (i forget how, she came and asked me something i think) which brought him back in momentarily but I took care of that quickly. Shortly after I basically explained to her exactly what I did and how I did it etc, she was fascinated and I had more kino heading my way. Would like to start experimenting with this more in future because as already mentioned, it shows that you "get it".

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