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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:34 pm 
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Dear AfcGalway,

Thanks mate,

Dance floor game is no different to normal game, It's just done with the physical instead of the verbal, so yes you can be consistently good at it, I covered this topic in quite a bit of detail earlier on in this thread, page two or three I think, have a look and if you cant find it, I'll type up another post on it :)

oh and thanks for calling me ugly! :P

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Dear desertfox565,

No probs buddy, I'm glad your seeing huge differences in your life, It makes all my work worthwhile. Thanks :)

Mate, never apologize for wanting to talk to a person, that's wrong and if they have a problem with that then their not the kind of people you want to be around. From the sounds of it she's a little “different”

I would suggest moving on, purely for all the little games she's playing with you. But if you must then arrange a meet and run game in person, send a couple of texts here and there to keep it light then when your in person and she's having fun, ramp things up.

(C-R) + Q + SE = A

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Dear AB-FF,

The best thing to do in your situation is to befriend them and run game after, that way you wont get blown out or damage your standing at your college. Create an event like a party for instance, get talking to a girl and invite her to it, that way you have a justified reason to get in touch and see her again, then at the party flirt and run game from there.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:39 pm 
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Dear Jack360,

Sounds good so far buddy,

1 – No don't wait for her, as a man you always have to lead, Where most guys fail is when they try to take the lead but end up taking value instead of adding value, which is in other words neediness.

2 – Dates are not about where you take someone, the location doesn't actually matter, the important thing is what you do. The traditional “dinner and a movie” dates can be extremely high pressured as you have to fill the dreaded awkward silence with something but have no other means than conversation. Do an activity, something low pressure and fun like cooking a meal together (that includes shopping for ingredients) or seeing an art exhibition, the more personal the activity is to you the better (I had girls come over to play D&D)

3 – Have a plan that ends up back at your place, avoid the “wanna go back to my place?” lines altogether by meeting her at a place close to yours. Tell her you've forgotten your wallet so you need to go back, have her come in with you. Show her your place briefly and both go back out. Because she's already been to your place she'll feel more comfortable with going back to yours after.

Have a justified reason, even if things couldn't have been better on the date and you know she likes you, and you both know whats going to happen when she get's back to yours, she still has to have a reason to go back to yours so she can justify it back to herself and even her friends later.

Same as always (C-R) + Q + SE and ramp up the kino in SE. On a side note, don't escalate past the point we're your flirting and kinoing back and forth unless you're in an environment which allows you to close, otherwise you'll ramp up her buying temperature and when you cant close she'll have regrets of how she acted and will “correct” it.

Hope that helps,
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Dear Jimbop82,

Thanks for the compliment buddy :)

I always get the dates and places wrong but all of my details are on the puatraining website so check it out on there.

Hope to see you soon
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Dear File,

Glad I could help mate, Sounds good to me I'm always looking to make new friends!

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Dear Ashtray69er,

Hey buddy welcome to the community!

The best bit of advice I can ever give is to push yourself to do this, be prepared to fail and carry on regardless of the outcome and finally have fun!

But for more specific game material I'd say go to my website and download all of my free stuff, I've spent hours and hours on the content, so I wont need to type the same answers to repeated questions for everyone. You'll find a lot more value on there than I can give in this one post :)

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Dear Dang1991,

Good guestion,

C&F is a break in rapport, If you've got enough value in the first place or add value by making her laugh you've already assumed comfort.

(C-R) + Q + SE = A

So you've skipped C and have gone straint into -R but after a break in rapport you always have to go back into comfort to show her your not an asshole but a guy who likes to poke fun at life and have a laugh.

Then in Q you take that spark of attraction and magnify it by finding out about her and rewarding her for her each investment while each qualification hoop gets bigger with each one.

Sexual escalation is great for rewarding qualification, you start off small like high fives and light body touches to the arms with the back of the hand and progressively gets more sexual with each hoop she jumps through.

Remember to add value at all stages and you'll be fine :)

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Dear Cococo,

Hey mate, you were spot on with the first one, The field is the only pick up instructor worth spending time on really. Your right it does take time and can be slow progress, I remember what it was like but it's they only way anyone will ever get any good. Keep at it, it will come.

Routines have their place too so I wont belittle them, however the way I see them is little sprinkles to my cake, It's not the foundation of game but finishing touches to it that makes things that little bit smoother. Your right though, I've met many many guys who used routines as their primary game and they all felt like they weren't being genuine and the girls they were getting didn't actually know who they were. That's dreadful, I wouldnt want to be there myself, I'd rather work my arse off to become a genuinely cool person.

Conversation is all about adding, From now on the following two words are your best friends

“Yes and...”

A friend of mine and also a great PUA (ACE PUA) in his own right is a master of conversation and his views on it are amazing.

Conversation is based on offers of topics to talk about, that keep getting added upon.

The weather is amazing, I went to the park today to sunbathe and saw a squirrel jump down off a tree branch to the ground.

From this once sentence there are a number of things you can talk about

1 Weather – holidays - travel
2 Parks – greenery – scenery
3 sunbathe – holidays – relaxation
4 – squirrel – animals – crazy activities like bungee jumping

If you look even deeper you'll probably find even more topics. This is an offer, you can accept it or reject. The funny thing is “yes” and “no” are both rejections if you don't add to what the other person is saying, the conversation will just die out.

“yes, I agree” - kills the conversation because there's nothing more to add on
“no, I disagree” same thing, it's only redeeming feature is you usually have to make add something after that to be understood.

In your next conversation, whoever it's with and whatever it's about, accept their offers by “yes, and..” and build on what their saying. See if you notice a change in the sorts of conversations you have, I'm sure you will.

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Dear Stealth,

Good job on the phone numbers buddy, your doing well.

Text game is a funny one, most guys fail because they invest way too much on not only the texts being sent and received but more importantly in the waiting, they get so anxious and eventually end up acting needy.

A good thing to do is to message more than one girl at a time, but the best thing to do is treat it like you're texting a mate, you don't sit there waiting and waiting for a text from your best mate do you, no you text and get on with whatever your doing and read the reply when it gets to you.

When you're texting it's important to know what you're after, is it a meet? A date? A text conversation? Or just a message because you have a couple of minutes and your bored?
Once you have that in mind work towards it.

Start with C then -R (which you make sure knows your joking) and then Q and you reward her qualification with a meet up, I would advise against SE in text unless you've splept together or have an insane level of attraction.

Hope this helps,
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Dear Nonisse,

Hey mate,

I'm sorry mate I don't know anything about your condition, so please take my advice with a pinch of salt!

I would suggest making friends with women; when you surround yourself with females you grow used to being around them so which will help you to come out of your shell.

You'll pick up certain things like being able to have a female conversation, understanding verbal and non verbal cues such as a girl asking you what you think of “her” pointing to a random girl in the club, you'll tell by the tone of her voice she's selecting her to bitch about, so naturally she doesn't like her for whatever reason. All of these things will ease you into being intimate with a girl.

When you soi make sure you have attraction and investment otherwise you'll be just another dude spitting out lines, the soi has to be a reward for her actions in (C-R) + Q

Hope this helps,
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Dear ninjasdf,

Thanks man, It's always good to her positive things about my work at least I know all my efforts are paying off :)

1 – Each club has it's own promoters, you don't particularly need to know the people highest up in the chain either (although the higher the better) go to the club before the night at talk to the person at the door, tell them you have a party (of value) that you want to have at their location and you want to set up easy entry and ask them what they can do.

Adding value to clubs isn't hard, you just need to know what kind of value to add, Almost all clubs respond to two kinds of value:

A- Over 10 attractive girls with minimal guys (entourage in london was at least 10 hot girls to every guy)

B – Guys who spend lots of money on tables. This doesn't really need explaining. On average the kind of guy in this category spends anywhere between 20 – 100 grand at the table on booze for the night.

Once you can provide either of these they entry will be quite easy.

2 – Roll up together as an entire group, there's no other way. The girls are your entry period, if the club already has them inside without you then they don't need you at all so they'll probably refuse you, of course they'll give you a different reason but it's purely because they see no value in you anymore as your girls are already inside. Meet up at a venue and go as one group.

3 – You never want to sound like a promoter, If you start sending them messages to get them on a VIP list they'll treat you as a club guy (minimal investment) run game and invite them to a party (justified reason to for the number and seeing them again) then when you're taking their numbers get their full name and send them the a plan of action.

Meet at X at X have a few cocktails while everyone gets here then we'll head over to X in a massive group to have a crazy night of drinks and dancing.

Hope this helps bro! Let me know how you get on :)
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Dear PhoneHelp,

Man that's a tough situation, you did well not to let it affect you too much. I dislike guys who run that kind of game,it's just not cool, especially when the guy is with her at the time.

Mate there are a number of amogging techniques you could have used and they are all well and good but sometimes you just have to drop game and be willing to walk away. If I was against a guy who had better game on me I wouldnt go head to head with him because I'd lose, I'd use the fact that I know her and she is someone I'm in the process of hooking up with, she had the best of both worlds. She enjoyed being with you, she enjoyed being with him. If she can get away with having the both of your there and getting away with it she would, plus there's the added benefit of having too guys fight for her, which is an ego trip and would make anyone feel good.

I would have put her on the spot, by telling her I wanted to leave and she could either come with me to a better place (get some food or anything else) or she could stay here on her own with two complete strangers...
With the social pressure and possibility of her being branded a slut plus the fact that you have way more of her investment than someone she just met, I'm 90% sure she would have walked with you, but that would also mean that there was a 10 per cent chance that you would have lost the girl. Sometimes you just have to show that your willing to walk away.

Hope that helps,
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Dear airwave2oo8,

Conversation is even easier on holiday resorts, Situational and Observational works wonders in activities like skiiing, just make an observation on the activity “I could swear this looked easy on tv” “you do that so well, tell me your secret or I'll hide you in a snowman” anything that makes them laugh and it's smooth sailing or should I say skiing from there (forgive the pun)

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Dear Kentheman,

Hey mate, It sounds like you have a good solid foundation to work from and that part about not wanting to mess up your social circle is something I felt a lot too.

Qualification is essentially knowing what qualities you want in a person and finding out if the person you're talking to has those qualities, “I like interesting people, Tell me three interesting things about yourself.” You reward her for telling you about those things by kino (SE) and gradually the things you talk about get more intimate and she'll probably even give you cues to escalate along the way.

I typically use functional openers “Sorry to bother, you do you know where the nearest coffee shop is?” then reward with “Thank you, You're very friendly which is rare in this day and age” then transition with my name “Oh hi, I'm Adam by the way”

then (C-R) + Q + SE

Mate experience the only thing that makes you good at anything, I hate to say it but if you really want to develop the skill you're going to have to do things for the experience, but you should never do anything that you don't want to and you should never lie to a girl about your intentions or what she should expect from you afterwards, if you can do those two things then you wont hurt anyone including yourself, go for it!

Hope this helps,
AFC Adam,


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