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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:26 pm 
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That's a pretty interesting opener, and I could see it being the sort of thing girls would really get into, so nice work on that front too. Repect for coming up with your own opener aswell, not nearly enough people do this, and it'd great to see new PUA's that are taking that step (that EVERYONE should be) to make their own material when they start.

This is a great idea for one, and the other posters here have cleaned it up for you. A backing story IS something that you should have in there. It doesnt need to be detailed, but a little hint that roots the opener to the moment helps avoid that horrible shit-test of "Why are you asking us this?" or "Why are you talking to us?".

Good work man, go open a few sets and report on how it runs! Better yet, try out the different versions here and post which one works best.

Personally, I think you'd find that your version works the best. The other two are technically better openers, but you will say your own more naturally, so it will get a better response. keep in mind that you should definatley look to evolve it over time so that it naturally turns into something like what's posted here.


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The problem with the opener is that it lacks a root. Why are you asking?

Monkey: Hey guys, need a quick female opinion on something. Is it alright to take someone's number if you already have a boyfriend?
HB: Yes/No.
Monkey: The reason I ask is, I've got a friend who was recently out of town, and while he was at the bar, a couple of girls offered him their phone numbers. When he got back to Edmonton, his girlfriend found the numbers in his coat pocket, and automatically jumped to the conclusion he was cheating on her. Is she over-reacting, or is her reaction justified?
Option One
HB: Over-reacting.
Monkey: That's sort of what I thought. So if you were out with a guy and he was taking a bunch of numbers from pretty girls, where would you draw the line?
Option Two
HB: Justified.
Monkey: So it's not ok to make new friends at the bar? What if he never uses the number?
Totally agree with monkey. You have too root your opener, why do you ask for their opinion?
If you don't root the opener they will know that you have an agenda which is bad of course.
I will also add that don't ask if you can ask. Don't start opening by saying "Can I ask you...." or "so can I grab.." bla bla. If you ask them if you can ask them a question it seems like you're insecure and therefore conveying DLV.


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Basically, if your opener asks if you could ask them a question... It will give you an additional and unnecessary chance to fail the set.


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Yes I like the opener I would personally clean it up a bit and also add a story/reason as to why your asking otherwise it will be another bog standard opener with nothing to back it up! If you have a wing you could put a spin on it and say " I have a bet with my mate over there [point to your wing] and I need a female opinon on something". (This will have them on the edge of their seat) then deliver your opener then get their opinon) I usually like have a signal for my wing to come in so he dosen't come in at the wrong time (a toutch of the ear or neck) then have your wing say "So have I won that £20 quid" (or whatever your currency is) it is good to let your wing know what the opener is as the girls will probably engage and ask his opinon on it, it's also good for your wing to have the opposite opinion to you (especially if your beting on it) and then you will be engaged in conversation. Your opener will need a Story (why are you asking their opinion?) other wise it will look like your taking a survey or a job interview and that will blow you out of the set.

This is what works for me

Good luck with it

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very cool i'm going to try it out tomorrow


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great stuff... going to use it today during day game


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You know I have an idea for the female opinion... try this

Hey, I need your opinion on fashion. Then ask them: what do you think about my hair?

HB: Good/Cool/Awesome or Bad/Sucks/won't get you anywhere

So if it was the positive one say:

YOU: oh no no no no, I wanted an OPINION, not flirting.

If they laugh come clean and say: well, that makes the two of us, what's your name? and go on.


If it was negative, say: uhaaa, finally, someone with constructive criticism. Tell me what can I do to improve it. She would talk or just walk away if she's ignoring you. If she talked and tried to explain tell her, you know something, you are nice, I was just trying to flirt with you
Clever?


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Good luck from me too!


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i like and hav tried this a few times, it works pretty well, perhaps u guys can add a bit more to it.

Basically its a female opinion opener with something i heard of the radio,

PUA - "so can i graba quick opinion to settle an arguement between me and my freinds please, if u were to talk to a guy at a bar adn take his number is that classed as cheatin if ur with someone,?"

HB's "yes/no"

PUA - "so its not ok to make a new friends at th bar?"
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"wot about if u jus take the number and not text it"

HB's- "yes you can make friends, and no its not cheatin if u dnt use it"

PUA- "So if u were with a guy who went out an got ppl's numbers, where would u draw the line as to think of it as cheating"


you can bust on them because sometimes they contradict themselves when it goes froma girl pickin up numbers, to a guy. i normally try make a joke out of equal rights and then jus neg an tease the answers.
again if you can add anyhting to this then please any advice on makin this any better, or if i should scrap it lemme know.
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i like this. thankyou


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nice opener


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Good. it seems like it would work.

If I were to add one suggestion it would be to open with "would you mind if I got your opinion..." instead of "would you mind if I grab a quick opinion..."

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Great opener. I will tell my wing about it and we will use it next time on the field.


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