OK, I'm debating as to whether shoot for a get together next Sat night...I still haven't gotten her into my element (karaoke, club dancing, etc.) at venues where folks know me (the social proof). (All my close friends except one are married, and the single guy rarely goes out...one of the married couples parties quite a bit though, I'm wishing they'd have a get together soon! Now THAT would be some social proof...all the ladies in this circle of friends hug me, kiss me on the cheek, etc.)

However, next Sat is Valentine's Day...I'm not sure if that's a benefit or drawback. Here's my thoughts, see what you think:

- On one hand, since she's had a recent breakup, she may be feeling quite a bit of pain about V-Day, and might jump at the chance to go out with a "casual friend" whom she's very attracted to on V-Day.

- On the other hand, I'm not sure that I want to show her that I don't already have a date on V-Day. (Of course, I might by then, who knows.)

Hmmm...I dunno. What do ya think?

There's a couple things I've thought about that probably did make an impression...I had a dozen roses sitting in a vase when she came over last Sunday...she said "Nice flowers", I said "A friend gave me those." (Actually, they came from my estranged wife, but I didn't see any need for her to know that detail.) She was probably thinking "A girlfriend, I'll bet." She's also asked me a couple of times if I'm going to other meetups with the meetup groups....I've said "Yeah, a few". I can't tell if she's asking so she can "accidentally" meet me there, or she's asking to determine if I'm meeting other women. Maybe both?

Gruuve

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Another question: I just have the gut feeling that sooner or later, this woman is going to plant a major lip-lock on me. I have three options for how to respond:

1) Enjoy the moment, and lay into that kiss but don't take it any further.

2) Lay into that kiss, and escalate until she stops me.

3) Turn my head so that she gets me on the cheek instead, and maybe tell her "Now, now, we have to be just friends...remember?"

What do you think guys? I'm thinking #1 or #3 (or somewhere in between maybe?) Thoughts please...

Gruuve

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Ask this chica' that we are talking about if she has any plans.
If she says "No" or something else that reads "No", tell her,
"You do now." (and smile).

If she asks, "Where/What are we doing?" Just tell her, "I have been to the
places you like, and I liked them too... it's just time for you to see where
I like to go." (smile).


Social Proof? You don't need social proof now man. But, if you do want her
to see your social proof... call these other girls up (after you know where
you will be that night) and have them all meet you there.

You can then approach the group of friends, with NEW GIRL in tow, and this
chica' will see your social proof in action (so-to-speak).
FIRST "DASH" = Just ask her what she has planned for V-Day. Ask this like
you would someone what they want to eat. "So, what are you doing Sat?"

SECOND "DASH" = If she asks you, "What are you doing?"

You can simply tell her, "Well, I have this girl that is interested in me, I just
don't have strong enough feelings for her yet. I just feel like chilling out with
friends or something. You wanna join me? ... we don't have to go out, we
can just go back to the house and watch movies."
She might want to meet you there so she and you can dance together again.
You have established FAMILIARITY with her and she will not FEEL weird
dancing with and talking to you. Once again, helping out your social proof
at the meet-ups.

It could also be read into as her wanting to know if you are in fact, trying
to GET WITH HER... if you say that you ARE going to more of these things,
then YOU have put this girl into the FRIENDS ZONE... you beat her at her
own game and she now has to try and get you back to her side of wanting
to GET WITH HER... thus building up her ego once again.

It could be read as BOTH of what you stated. The only way to tell would be
to actually ask her why she wants to know, and then watch her body language
to determine if she wants to meet you there, or if she gets jealous that you
are going back to one of the meetings.

She already knows that you have no negatives about approaching good
looking females... because you approached her at one of the meetings.
She might not want to lose you as one of her future CONQUESTS/LAYS.
MY THOUGHTS ON THIS POST:

When she lip-locks you... when the initial kiss has ended (either by you or her)
move your face about 5 inches away from her face. If you notice her looking
at your lips and then back to your eyes and then back to your lips... KISS HER
again.

End this kiss a little early and move to kissing her neck, under her chin and
around to the sides under the ears, and then slowly roll your tongue around
the outside of her ear (not inside her ear, but the outer part)...

While rolling your tongue on the outside of her ear you should hear her
breathing getting heavy, now is the time you want to stick your tongue
inside her ear a little bit (not far, just enough so you can hit the nerves
that are inside the ear)...

After this, she will either want more or pull your lips back to hers and then
it is on... or...

After a few seconds of inner ear tonguing, kiss the side of her neck again,
and work your way to the BACK of her neck now...

The back of the neck is THE MAIN PLACE of the neck that will turn women
on real fast... you want to BITE the back of her neck a little bit, not too hard...
just bite the back of her neck (the CENTER, lined up with the spine), bite here
about as hard as you would bite a babys little finger (softly, but so she can feel it.)

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OK, update: around Tuesday of last week, I sent her that note saying "I think Gruuve and Gruuve2 should get a groove on this weekend...what are you doing Sat?" She replied that she already had plans Sat, but suggested lunch, so we have a lunch date tommorrow.

I don't have any iternary planned...we'll just converse and see how it goes. I wear a mood ring all the time now, so I'm sure I'll check her mood with it...LOL. If she appears as fascinated by it this time as last, I'll probably tell her "Just keep it until the next time you see me", and let her set a date.

Gruuve

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LOL. So, I confirmed lunch with the Chica via email. Some new photos had been posted of the meetup where I met her...two of them were of us dancing. I'm quite entertained by one of the pics where she appears to be staring at and pointing at my crotch!

So, I included the links to those two new photos in the email, and posed the question for the one pic "Now, what are YOU looking and pointing at in this one?" She replied "Behave, Gruuve". I replied "I can't...mischief is my middle name". I think I probably embarrassed her just a bit, which I think is probably good...I activated an emotion.

LOL...I think this will be a fun lunch date.

Gruuve

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OK, back from lunch date. Went well, I think. We talked a lot, had some good laughs, etc. I did tell her at one point "Let's check your mood" and gave her the mood ring. She put it on and wore it for a while, then when she started to give it back to me I said "You seem fascinated by it, so why don't you just hang on to it until the next time you see me?" She said "OK". Now, I'm sure she probably realizes my purpose in telling her to keep it until she sees me again is so we have an excuse to see each other again, but she didn't hesitate to agree, so I'd assume that's a good sign.

Before we left, I ran the mind-reading routine...I know she's a very intelligent and educated woman, so I said "Let's do a mind-reading trick" instead of positioning it as psychic powers or anything...LOL. She went along with it, and was very entertained by me giving her the right answer. "That's amazing." I could see the wheels spin though..."you should tell me the sequence so I can do it too". Sure enough, she's intelligent enough to realize it's a math trick. I'm definitely doing the right thing by just being completely myself with this woman, but throwing in a few interesting things I think. I like this woman enough that I don't have any desire to resort to anything remotely resembling trickery...she's totally cool as a person in addition to being a hottie.

We were talking about food at one point, and I asked her what was the most exotic thing she had ever eaten. She told me, then asked me what the most exotic thing I'd ever done was. I raised one eyebrow and smiled. (Subtle innuendo.) She laughed and said "Gotta keep the reigns on you...make that eaten". (I figured I'd better stay away from the possible innuendo there! LOL.) We had some good conversation, she even opened up a little about why her and her BF split up (which is something I know she hasn't wanted to talk about much even to her friends...in fact, she has avoided some of her friends because she didn't want to talk about it.) She made a statement to me that seemed leading: "I like to take my time and get to know someone really well." Smart woman.

I've also noticed that sometimes she can't quite determine if something I've said is a joke or serious. I can crack some joke or tease with a totally straight face, and based on our cultural differences sometimes I can see her thinking "what did he mean?". I think that's good...keep a little mysteriousness about myself. I've also realized that some things I say have a slightly different connotation to her...if I see that "what did he mean?" look on her face, I'll ask "did that translate correctly?". LOL.

Anyway, something Mystery says in the book is that you have to enjoy the process moreso than focusing on a goal. I'm not exactly following Mystery's work with this one, but I'm definitely enjoying the process of getting to know this woman. I don't think I felt any really strong IOI's this time however, but we'll see where it goes. I'm keeping some very subtle sexual innuendo's coming (like the joke about the picture) to be sure she knows that I'm looking for more than just friendship. Regardless though, I am quite enjoying getting some exposure to someone from a very different culture. And since she's wearing my mood ring, I'll be popping into her mind quite a bit until I see her again I hope.

Funny side story, btw...there was a cute blond that I'd had one date with and we had planned another. I totally lost her however. I sent her a link to some of my music on Myspace, but I accidentally sent her the wrong URL. The wrong URL sent her to a page with some scary-looking dude preaching some sort of violent philosophy. She got freaked out by this (which I can understand), but when I told her "I sent you the wrong URL, here's the right one" she was already gone...cancelled our date and didn't respond to an email nor a phone call. LOL. Not any big loss, but it's a little comical I think...if she's that freaked out by a simple mistake then her and I probably wouldn't get along very well anyway. I'm kinda seeing this as her not passing an unintentional shit-test...LOL. Next!

Gruuve

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hehe, well she is probably wondering why you had that link in the first place.. =P

You mean the erroneous music URL? LOL...it's actually an easy mistake to make...on myspace, my page is "wickedtruthrocks" (my music)...the page I accidentally sent her to was "wickedtruth" (the scary dude!). Like I said, no big loss.

Gruuve

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Something you said that the girl said struck a note in my brain...

It is said that women are always thinking:

What did he mean by that?
Why did/is he saying that?
Why did he ask me that?
What does he mean by that?

I cannot remember where this came from otherwise I would give credit
where credit is due.

This is "hard-wired" into my brain so it is worth noting and keeping in the
back of your mind as well.

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