Hi im new to this forum
im 21 years old and i live in sweden.
got into to this after reading "the game"
i dont have a problem to contact girls, or so but i always end up in friendship, all my friends always say im so nice, but i want to be more than just friends.
i found it really hard to say a neg to a girl, im afraid that they would get really insulted and just say something rude and walk away.

anyway it feels good to be here

cheers

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Hi Cloer,

First of all - there is a difference between being a nice guy and being a chump.

You don't have to be an asshole to girls to avoid the "friend zone", but you DO have to stop being a chump. Buying them flowers, presents etc.; driving them places and; complimenting them on how gorgeous they look all the time will only land you in the friendzone.

As for a neg, read up on the forums on how to use negs... I will admit I'm still mastering them myself.

The thing about a neg is that you are NOT giving them a direct insult. You are saying it almost as if by accident.

And if they do walk off.. so what? go find another girl to talk to.

- Dex

yea thats sounds good. thx alot for the help m8

gonna look into the neg a bit more though

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"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"