Well, not new, exactly. I've had people talk behind my back before. Both literally and figuratively. But this situation is new. I don't know exactly who's doing it but it can only be one of two, three people, tops.

There are currently two girls I'm actively gaming. Someone has told ONE of them that I play mindgames and I'm known to fuck women around and that I'm a player. I take offence to that; I don't fuck women around, I make sure everyone knows what to expect before it happens. I don't play mindgames - I just play their game. And I'm not a player I'm a godsdamned PUA.

Apparently someone has told the other girl some similar things, as well as that I think she's really hot but she plays on it too much. That's something I was going to say to her myself!

I'm pretty sure I know who told the first girl that, because another guy, an rAFC, is after her and isn't getting anywhere; they've shared a bed plenty of times but he hasn't managed to get anywhere with her, and he knows that I'm a PUA. But I don't think this guy knows the second girl.

Jealousy, presumeably. But I've never had this situation before. I'm in a very small town!

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Get used to it. No matter where you go, what you do or who you do it with, there are always going to be people who sit on the sidelines and talk shit. It's human nature. In fact, if those guys didn't have your name in their mouth, I'd assume you were doing something wrong

Keep a strong frame and identity. You know who you are and what you're about. Stay true to that and people will see your detractors for what they are--jealous liars.

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That's right. People talking shit behind your back just means you're doing great.

Succes always goes along with envy. Enjoy the jealousy and frustration.

Taking care of enemies is no problem at all, taking care of your friends is a great challenge.

xD I sound like an old man from Tibet.

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Never heard that one before, i like it!! (not the old man bit )

Yeah you're always going to have this problem but probably not to this degree. I expect it is solely down to this guy thinking you're taking this girl away from him. Not sure where your morals lay but you can either just carry on as usual and take this girl anyway or take the "plenty more fish in the sea" approach and just leave him try to get with her while being snug with that fact that he probably wont get anywhere with her and the bitching 'might' stop.

I've been fortunate my friends wont get nasty but instead just banter a bit

Well he's not really a friend, I've only really met him once, and that's when he found out I was a PUA. Well, I was going to let him have her, but if this is how he wants to play it, then it's no holds barred for me.

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its so odd, other guys can try to tear you down, talk shit in front of girls

and the girls blow it off like nothing, maybe becuase they don't want to hear it, or they are just so attracted to you that nothing else matters.

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You met the AFC once, and you told him about the freaking game you play, and PUA materials. Clarify that so everyone reading this understands that you did this to yourself.

You have others confused who are reading this. Suck it up, you put this on yourself being too trusting to a random guy.

You basically tried to build rapport with him by trying to explain to him about this PUA world. The same guy who both of you are chasing after a girl he has already F-closed many times.

You know how you F'ed this up right? I'm guilty of trying to hard to impress my friends in the past, it always ended up with me being talked behind my back. This is what happens when you try to impress people, who you barely know.

Come out and be more honest with your posts. We are all brothers here, I don't like to have to dissect someones words like I just have. Honest brutal truth is must.

I wasn't trying to impress the guy. I was trying to judge the competition. I sensed that he was on the right track with his tactics but also that he was actively trying to do things, so I asked him if he was a PUA. Maybe I did bring this on myself, but I don't really see it as a problem. After all, apparently people are talking about me a lot when I'm not there. Even if it is negative publicity, it still creates interest as to why they're talking about me all the time, and leads people to want to find out for sure.

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im inclined to say that anyone who hasn't had EXTENSIVE experience with guys hating on him shouldn't be allowed to call himself a PUA. every time i go out i see 2 kinds of guys... guys who are impressed by what i do and guys who are jealous of it...

im even more inclined to say that you are not a PUA because you said you are from a VERY small town... people from small towns all know each other and sorry buddy but its not picking-up a chick if you know her.


(i just picked up on this forum about 5 days ago. i first called myself a PUA about 5 days ago when i was looking online and found all the PUA shit there is and realized just how well the title fit. and in 5 days i went from thinking that theres a whole community of guys like me and we could brag to each other about the chicks we fucked to realizing that the name is so diluted that for me to call myself a PUA isnt even worth it when people who dont deserve it already think they are)

sorry man but that is total bullshit. You can be from a small town with say, 20 available girls, and everybody knows you, and you can still be an AFC chump. And then using PU methods, you can be more attractive and get all those girls after you. Knowing does not equal instant attraction. Or what about all those guys asking for help with girls they know from school?

Anyhow, to the OP:

There is one, sure-fire, no-fail way to defeat ANY rumor that any man, AFC or AMOG, spreads around behind your back.

That is having women spreading the rumor that you are a compassionate, deep, incredible, awesome, wonderful man (and lover!). The word of a girlfriend destroys anything any guy could ever say to her. Be good to the girls, and they will be good to you. Karma goes a long ways, you've just got to be sure you deserve it. Like chief said, "Honesty and Persistance."