I'd like to practice pickup on my girlfriend. I want to kinda like play with female triggers and understand them better. I want to be able to read her and other women and learn more about other stuff. So my question is "how?". What aspect of a serious relationship can I explore that are similar to pickup?

This is not reliant to what I wanna do, but. I noticed one thing is the "shit test" my girlfriend seems to do mini ones all the time. Before they kinda fucked me up in a converastion with her. Now I see them and just smile confidentiality. And goes on with the converastion as if she never said it. Normally I would listen and talk and try to over come with logic.
Can you think of ways to use these terms of a girlfriend for practice and improvement?

Anchor, DHV, Frame, Freeze Out, Group Theory, IVD, LMR, NEG, NLP, Phase-shift, Push Pull, Stylemog, Subcommunication, takeaway, time constraint, trance words?

I don't want to use the terms I listed to manipulate my girl for my motives. I want to master these techniques a kind field test them and get a feel on how to use them and see the female brain and train of thought.

You're going to fuck up your relationship if you practice these things on her.

There is no one saying that you can't go out and have fun with out people. Go open sets, learn, field test, study. You can do all of it still, as long as you know where to draw the line.

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Just try that stuff on women you meet everyday. Secretaries, the chick at Burger King, the angry chick at the post office. Young, old, it doesn't matter.

It's just practice.

The best way to learn those things is from a girl. But not by sarging the girl. By ASKING the girl. Personally Im not supporter of sarging while In a relationship, cause I wouldnt like my GF to do that to me.

Second, If I want to know something, I just ask my girlfriend. For example I tell her: "What would you have said If when we met I had told you bla bla bla..." or "What would you think If a guy tells you that... bla bla bla..."

Ive learned a lot of things doing this. My advice is that you dont sarge her. You dont need to, and like Locke says, you will fuck up your relationship. Actually you dont need to sarge at all. If you want to get good at sarging, then dont go into a relationship man. Thats all. There always the other way: Just ask her, like I do. Always in a funny way. Dont take it serious.

Bye bye.

SeekNDestroy, i think you're SO wrong.

I NEVER ask girls advice on how to get with girls. They don't know what they want, and all of you know that. "A nice/good person"....BULLSHIT. Maybe a good person who can hit all the attraction triggers, but w/o that you're fucked. I'm living with my GF and another girl SPAM and i hear them give advice to guys who "want to get back with their GF"..."want to get this girl" and they give the TYPICAL afc responses that make girls RUN FOR THEIR LIVES.

The only way to learn from girls is by seeing how they react/behave, words are meaningless unless you're talking about what shoes best match what shirt.

You didnt understand what I said my friend. What I tried to explain is specificly in this case, you can ask your GIRLFRIEND. I never said ask random girls. Although you could if you KNOW how to do it.

i agree with locke and seek.

but at the same time, its natural to try out new things in a relationship. everyone already does that. there's no way to know the perfect way to act at all times.

like seek said, i'll talk pua with my gf once in a while by talking about techniques but i'm not gonna field test things on her if there's a chance i will crash and burn. even though the ltr gives you some margin for error, you'll find that you want to crash and burn as little as possible, and try to score points rather than lose them.

when i go out to sarge, i'm not sarging for myself, i'll help my friends out and bring girls to the group. this is when i'll try new stuff that could crash and burn.

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Thanks for that quote, great quote right there.

i believe that gaming and relationships should be kept on opposite sides of the fence at all times. A relationship should be spontaneous and mysterious for it to work. if you gamed your girlfriend to perfection, and had her head over heels for you, would you still find it fun to be with her?