Right into it:

I am sure this info is out there, but I cant find good details, please dont reply with responses u think work. All of us would prefer tested methods. I mean you. I Would love to get a debate going of tried and tested day 2 fuck close methods.

been in the community for a while and am pretty much closing about 75% of the girls I hit on. anywhere from # close to F*close on the same night. using mystery, jeffries, direct, and some other stuff, I dont do cocky/funny.

keep in mind I am 25, my usual targets are only like HB7-8.5, and 18-22 (I look young) still building up my game slowly on the occasional HB9-10. But when I am in the mood for sex, pretty easy to bag a young HB8 going direct.

Anyway here is the advice I need help with and I happy to share my own. When I number close only. I do the txt back and forth, build comfort and act tough am always able to get these lonely chicks on a date.

So here we go, my questions are below a few things to keep in mind PUAs, I am trying to build comfort, escalate the sexual tension/horniness and not spend too much money. AND here is the best part, I live at home right now. Yup with my mom.

1. Where should I go? take her? been doing the local bar thing, I let her order first, then I order and then I order two shots, tequila, vodka, but surpirse it, not letting her know I am ordering the two shots till I tell the waiter I whatever she told me she likes. This is a great trick and sets the mood of fun and gets her a tipsy. Please do not suggest the fucking movies.

2. How can I build sexual tension? This is my weakest spot. the fluff convo, building rapport, patterns. I need solid advice here, post links, patterns anything you have. basically what the fuck do I talk about with this dumb ass chick for two hours.

3. connected to question 2? what do I need to be portraying in the convo, my attitude, how do I stear the convo, I try the NLP stuff asking about positive events in her life, bull shit like that. sometimes I palm read. which I just make up truisms. besides confidence what do i need to be doing through out the convo.

4. how can i close this? I cant take her back to my place and lets assume she doesnt have a place. any advice here????


Look as I am sure you know with ugly chicks, they r just as horny and desperate as us, but with cuties, this day 2 is more important than the # close. I need a few mPUA to help walk me through successful day 2, enough with the pickup already. thats easy. please any links, or help, I will love you for it. hit me up if you need more info.

BTW this date is on saturday at 10pm. but i am down for day and night advice.

thanks in advance

Here is my typical day 2 so far. I need help with patterns and escalation.

Obviously I try to make it a weekday, not too late because, we both will get tired, not too early that I have to buy dinner. Tuesday 9pm is perfect. Even better if you say "I have to work late" or" I have a business dinner, but I am free after." DHV.

Pick her up is ideal right now as two cars is BAD. go to local cool bar with SPAM on a Tuesday, not cheesy though. This is a day 2 I like to hug when I see regardless of how I closed the number, # close or k close, I start with a hug. Feel free to respond. If we only number closed this is an escalation if we kissed closed this throws her off a bit. I do NO kino until we are sitting down.

As I mentioned I try to ask what her favorite drink is and what shots she likes, if we met at a bar, i get this information then. If she says tequila. I let her order, "white wine usually", I order my beer and then I tell the waiter "and two shots of tequila" she will look at you funny. BUT I have never seen the girl turn this down. Its starts the fun, and gets her tipsy.

This is where my game is weakest, the 2 hours at the bar. These chicks are dumb as bricks and I hate talking to them. I want to know more escalation techniques and patterns. Please advize here.

Anyway I will usually just have a chat, get her talking, try to be funny, try to bring up sex, its not fool proof but usually works ok, would like it to be smoother and have more stories to DHV.

I try to start on the kino early, its not easy when sitting across from each other, so a couch is best. its still possible if she wears rings or bracelets. Also if I need to go pee, I touch her when I stand up.

I try to venue change too. For example stop get gas between venue changes. This builds comfort. Dont let her sit in the car alone. Try to go to a gas station with a store and say "lets go buy some candy", for some reason this is not the best and I have now made it, "wana come help choose which gum to buy" its cheaper and she does not feel like a kid. I think it also hints sex and kissing.

After this I wana fuck already. I know mystery says 10 hours, FUCK THAT. I cant stand a girl for 10 hours.

So I have been saying lets grab some beers/wine/vodka red bull and go to this cool lookout spot I know.

Thats what I do, runner the VDC ladder, and hopefully Fuck close. I have been getting too much LMR. and would like to find a better way with no place to go.

Any advice feedback is cool.

you can take her to a food place with a bar like chili's or applebees etc. you can sit and eat at the bar which puts you 2 side by side so u can touch more and u can include the bartender in the talk and bartenders are great wingmen. also since its a food place u can talk about all those movies like waiting, and clerks 2, etc. you can eat during the boring times or talk about whats on tv. open with a hug yeah and i'd recommend a light kiss on the cheek. (i swear i jsut gave someone else this exact same advice) and once u get her tipsy u can order cheese fries and playfully smear the cheese on her face and wipe it off or lick it off etc. hell even give her direct sexual comments. "they have good chicken here. you ever try the legs?" no matter what she says u can be like "yeah but i bet urs taste better". its shows confidence and smoothness and that ur not playin. i wouldnt focus on getting to know her deep past. just keep it light hearted. i.e. "whats ur zodiac sign. o really well imma _____ and i dont think were supposed to get along too well. i might have to abandon you here!" women usually know about zodiac signs so she'll blab on for a while. your attitude should always be like ur used to this situation. like shes just a new car for u to test drive and yeah its cool but u've driven alot of cars so its nothing spectacular. dont steer the convo!! just go with the flow and keep it natural. within the first 15 minutes of the date u should have her arm on you or your arm on her. and petting should continue for the rest of the date. where to take her? the back of your car... a park... not a hotel! unless she really wants it. the restaurant bathroom... anywhere. as long as ur smooth she'll do it. i knew a girl that gave a blowjob in a moving elevator.