Hey guys I was thinking alot in club game alot lately, and if u look at naturals they will use the df and just seem to plow into it with unstoppable force or talk to ppl at the bar with no routines or whats not... however this is more of an inner game they have about them..

Where whenver I talk I like to drop a routine in be cocky and funny, its almost as if routines come natural as well as their cocky and funny..

SO if u r out in a night club, what do u prefer full on ultra confident dont a flying fuck what u talk about, just approach approach... or do u prefer routines? and to play it more sny..

I ask this cus i have had success with both, but one or 2 nights and im sure u guys will agree with me, is u have nights where u just feel like u have the energy and just plow into sets like theres no 2morro speaking nothing out of a book or n e thing, just going in confident and leading...

what do u think is moreeffective.. thanks in advance. deus

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SHORT ANSWER: I don't use rountines from books. Never did. Just made
up my own ON-THE-FLY.

LONG ANSWER:

After many many years of studying the ways of the naturals and making
friends with the naturals, I too have become a natural.

Every now and again, I do flip through the pages of some books to find
something to talk about when I'm out and about.

If you want something to talk about, just look around the place you are at
and notice the DETAILS about people. Learn to read people's facial expressions
as to if they are having a good time, or if they are bored.

I go over and talk to guys who look bored being at a place and tell them,
I know how you feel man, this place is kind of boring... let's go talk to these
girls over here... and I take that bored AFC guy with me into a set and talk
him up. I don't HAVE TO be the guy who gets the girl. I even had a FB (fuck buddy)
with whom I shared with another friend who needed to get laid... I don't
have to be the one who gets laid all the time...

I like helping others out while I'm out gaming or just out to have fun... I
take them "under my wing" and talk them up so that they can feel good
about themselves for talking and making friends and possibly even get a
few girls' numbers in the process...

Everyone out there knows that people do things in order to get a return
of their investment... what do I get???

I get another friend who appreciates what I did for them, and they know
that I will help them out again, and they will help me out if they need to.

It's a win/win situation when you take the initiative to help another AFC out.

IF I SEE GIRLS WHO LOOK BORED ...

I do the same thing, I approach them as if I am just walking by them and
just happen to want to talk to someone about this place...

OVER THE SHOULDER AS IF I WAS JUST PASSING BY AND AM FIXING TO
BE BACK ON MY WAY TO MY FRIENDS (over there -> )

You guys look happy to be here... I think it's a little dead tonight honestly.
Why are you not up dancing with each other, having a good time?

GROUP: blah blah

I see... what's another fun place to go to besides here on the weekends?

GROUP: Club blah... or ... there's not another place.

Not another place to have fun around here. I find that hard to believe.
Have you tried going to the lake with some friends and hanging out?
My friends and I do that every now and again, it's a blast.

I got an idea! Since we know each other now, and you, LIKE ME, know when
you can TRUST someone (sp) enough to hang out with them and their
friends at a lake and just have a good time... Right..

It's like this... If you don't TRUST ME... enough yet, you really should get
to KNOW ME... better by (start sitting in a chair at table) asking me any
questions that you want to know, so you will FEEL COMFORTABLE AROUND
ME...

This should have them asking you questions, or whatever...

If they decide to go with you and your friends to the lake or not is not of
importance here...

What is important is that you are now in the set, and can leave anytime
that you want to. You just got social proof from all the other girls in the
club looking around at all the action...

The other girls don't see you not getting the girls to join you and your
friends at the lake... The other girls in the club see you talking to 2-4 girls
in the club and they are talking to you and not kicking you to the curb.

If you start noticing more and more (or the same girl) walking past the
table where you are sitting and talking to these other girls...

Stop that girl the next time she walks by... more than likely that girl pacing
back and forth will look at you and then look at the girls in a split-second.

Once you notice her look at you, say, "Hey. Are you lost?"

PACING HB: No. Just making the rounds (or whatever)

I am starting to get this stalker like vibe from you. You keep walking by
me and not even saying HI or nothing...

PACING HB: Sorry. I'm not a stalker either.

Good. Why don't you join us here...

PACING HB: Will that be ok with you girls?

You are my FRIEND... of course it's ok with these girls. Sit sit.

** And now, you have 4-5 girls that you are talking to.
Even more social proof...

Are you starting to see how easy it is to just TALK to people about NOTHING...

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