I'm not sure how to go for the kiss close and usually choke when the time comes. But I debating right now should I just isolate and go caveman on her ass after some negging and fluff talk, or use some fancy pick up line.. What do you guys think?

Please don't suggest that "would you like to kiss me routine"

Hey man,

I'm not going to suggest some stupid routine or script for you. I'm going to keep this really simple because the simplest plan typically works the best.

First off, don't worry about negging really as it's easy to overneg especially when you are going for the kiss. Fluff talk is always okay though.

TRIANGLE GAZING

When a girl wants to kiss you. She will subconciously do this thing with her eye called 'triangle gazing.' This is very simple. When she wants to kiss you she will look into your eyes, then to your mouth for a second, and then back into your eyes. This happens more when you are closer to each other than say 4 feet away. Isolation will help as well.

Luckily, people can't hide their body language and this works to our benefit.

When you see this subconcious gesture there is no need for any fancy lines or small talk simply lean in slowly, hold eye contact, and take the kiss that she wants to give you.

It doesn't get much easier.

ENJOY!!!

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j smooth made a good comment about body language. i recommend The Definitive Guide To Body Language read it, learn it, apply it. there's so much more than triangle gazing. are her legs crossed towards you? does she put her purse near you? is she stroking something? The problem i see with ur question is the kiss closing part. If you feel you can get a kiss it shouldn't have to wait for the close. get it and see where that takes you.

Thanks for the advice guys