Hi guys, I'm pretty new to PUA but I have no problem approaching girls and getting numbers. But when it comes to calling women and handling answers, I don't really know what to do. Here is the situation with the girl I met 2 weeks ago.

So I've been knowing this HB 8.5 for almost one year. We have a lot of mutual friends and used to see each other in parties and bars. We always got along really well but she is really shy. Anyway, I met her at a random party where we both went alone. We litteraly passed the evening together dancing and we ended up sleeping in my bed together. The next week, I saw her again at a friend's house party and we passed the evening together again. We had a lot of fun together and some kino (she's been litteraly sitting on me and talking with me, dancing). I didn't feel like I could k-close her since she is really reserved and a lot of people were seeing us. I just got her number and told her I'd call during the week.

I didn't want to start with an "official" date so I called her and invited her with me to a mutual friend's birthday. She came with me and things went ok. About a week later, I asked her to join me to play pool with me and some of HER friends who happen to be my friends too but she said she had a family dinner (which seems to be true).

I've been told to escalate very slowy with that type of girl (she reserved, never had bf but a lot of guys keep TRYING to fclose her). I feel that I'm in good position since she never acted like this with any other guy according to our friends. But, now that I called her twice to get together and that she declined one of my invitation, I feel like calling her a third time to hang out would as I am "pursuing" her.

So my questions are: Is it normal that she has not initated any phone contact by now, but when she sees me somewhere, she always comes to me?

Should I call her one more time so we can get together? And if I call her, should I continue to ask her to join me and some of our friends or I should I simply ask her out?

Thanks for the tips

Hello dude. Damn straight man, that is slllooooooww! Man Spending that long on a girl is SO long. But ok, I'm gonna let you go on this one because according to what you say you're being the exception to the rule.

I do have a sneaky suspision though that you're completely wrong. Every hot girl gets guys trying to f-close her. This doesn't mean the PUA does the opposite and not f-close her. It just means he uses a different means to achieve the same ends, those means being mountains more effective.

First off, next time you take her out, TAKE HER ON A DATE. It's been too long, you need to qualify her, make your intentions somewhat clear and just BE A MAN about things and escalate her. Remember all girls want to be seduced. There's no such thing as a girl who is not horny. You just have to find and emphasise that part of her, and for some girls this is much easier than others.

If she declined/didn't answer your calls not for a genuine logistical reason, then it's PROBABLY BECAUSE you haven't closed her, or escalated enough.

Dude sarging dudette - escalation at the right times = friendzone or perv.

You must keep escalating at the right times, and this process is much faster than AFC's will have you believe. If you don't the woman gets tired of your pussy-ness and leaves. That may have happened here.

On Friday I met a girl at a bookstore and talked to her for 7 minutes and 22 seconds. We then exchanged texts with high emotional value. That's all it takes mate, it's not long. Unfortunately I proceeded to invite her out to a party with me the day after (yesterday) to which she hasn't replied and has almost definately stuck me in the 'pervert' category. So yes there is such a thing as escalating too fast (damn abundance-mindset), but for your purposes and for people who've never hit this horizon, just imagine there is no limit. It's not whether you escalate or not, it's HOW you do it.

Now you have two options:

1. Call her again and set up a date.
2. Wait for her to call you.

For the former, you may want to wait a few days as a kind of 'freeze out' before doing it. To be honest this is a bit of a grey area to me. I tend not to do that and just call right after because I don't care. I take what's mine because I'm alpha. If you wait a few days let's face it, the girl will probably be clever enough to understand that "you've waited a few days" and it's just retarded. But that's my personal thought and may be wrong. With this option, just make sure you're not needy and don't lose the frame. So if she declines again, just be like "cool, fine, we'll hang out another time." And try again later. Don't give excuses or reasons or rationalise what she's saying. Just "cool, we'll hang out later." You've got a million and one other fun things to do without her.

Happy sarging!