Are PUAs Sociopaths?



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Kasabi's view on direct game seems to be very similar to my view of it.

Whether the whole "I just wanna talk" deal is a blatant lie or not is all to do with whether you want to sleep with her just for her looks or not.

I know I have been in situations where looks are the motivator, but nowadays the majority of the time looks are a required qualification, the selection process still continues after that.

Personally when going direct I prefer...

*insert appropriate direct opener* then "how has your day been so far?"

As for emotions, I think the nervousness and excitement approaching a good looking women is quite natural and should be to a healthy extent be embraced.


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Confidence isnt getting rid of the nerves, its stopping the nerves stop you from doing what you want to.


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excellent debate.

i'm not saying that even I live up to the standards i would like to hold.

but i don't lie. i do say that when i have a feeling that goes beyond "she's doable."

cos it's true. i flirt with a lot of girls, but i don't walk up to many and lay it out there.

b4 i found the community, i never, i mean not once, made a real attempt at a girl and had it not work. now, i didn't do it every day, but i did it enough to be happy wtih my selection.

then i decided to give pu a real shot and just did tons of "reps". like practice. and suddenly girls were reacting worse.


i believe that the amount of feeling you put into it is just what she will put into it. if you are bleah about wanting to be with her, she'll feel the same. if you really feel it without being weak, she'll feel the same.

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Now my personal thoughts on this 'community' are far too complex for me to type out.
Seconded, I feel you 100%.

But I do fear we are being dehumanized, on every angle. The TV, video games, "our entertainment," school, this community, we're being told to retain our feelings as if they're something to be afraid of.

I do appreciate Sean urging people to use your feelings and you should. Isn't this a relatively emotional field were discussing?


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Isn't this a relatively emotional field were discussing?
I think so.

It's a feeling of deprivation, of unfairness, of missing out, or of outright lonlieness and misery that leads most men to PU, ime.

Those are strong emotions, and not ones to be dismissed. If you learn to shut out the negative emotions, you will lose your ability to feel the positive ones.

The key as I see it is not to limit the effect emotions have on you, but create a life with more positive experiences than negative ones. The emotions are your scorecard for how well you are doing.

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I agree with OP

dunno, I want a girl to be by my side, fuck the ego of kissing 4 random girls in a weekend that ill never talk again, its shallow, it got old

of course I want to fuck the girl Im going to talk to, is there something wrong with that? does that mean that being honest to her is talking with my dick? hell no
I want an attractive woman, good sex, good times and good company

whats the special something? it's those feelings, one girl can be a special one for you as you can be to her
things in life have the value you give to them, if you think life is shit, it will be, if you think there's no such thing as a valuable person on your side, there wont be


as for removing your human emotions, lol, I wont even comment on that


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As to deal with this whole notion of PUA is the anti-brain washing, think again. How many people base their lives off of the Blueprint Decoded? There are many more examples, that one is just the most salient
Terrible example. Learning from Blueprint Decoded is more like letting your brain develop into a more flexible, naturally attractive REAL YOU. I don't think anyone who's seen that program can give a list of "values" that have been dogmatically drilled into them or anything of the sort. I don't get how its possible to "base your life" off of something like Blueprint.

Know what you criticize. :wink: Your argument would make a lot more sense if you used an example like seeing everything through the lens of evolutionary psychology and propagating your genes.

Like I said, more and more PUA teachers and students are waking up to what this community and its teachings should really be.


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Confidence isnt getting rid of the nerves, its stopping the nerves stop you from doing what you want to.
This is one particular view of confidence but I am not referring to confidence. An Olympic wrestler who goes up against a high school kid in practice doesn't feel "confident". Fear doesn't register. He knows himself and his environment. There is no need for getting rid of or stopping nerves here . .

Remove the "rules" that we're taught to keep ourselves positioned in some little hole all our lives, and we'd feel like that Olympic wrestler in practice 24/7.
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i believe that the amount of feeling you put into it is just what she will put into it. if you are bleah about wanting to be with her, she'll feel the same. if you really feel it without being weak, she'll feel the same.
And I believe this can be accomplished through more ways than a thousand.
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Pretty sure I'd say that it'd be 10% or less who don't suffer from extreme brain washing.
This is probably on par with everything outside of pua . . .
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Just because you substitute one socializing agent with another makes you no less free from limiting paradigms or social norms if your ignorant to the fact that your being socialized.
Spot on.


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like seeing everything through the lens of evolutionary psychology and propagating your genes.
Seems as if you are speaking from experience ;)
Which is why my arguments are more valid than yours :P

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