Plot Synopsis: Girl that I've been seeing/gaming/fucking for the past 3 months just got tag teamed by 2 dudes. I'd rather tell you guys then let people I know realize that I'm effected by it.

Long story: HB8 I got caught feelings for a couple months before I found out about the PUA community. I was the typical AFC, got the LJBF speech, and became her best friend/pet. She ended up loosing her virginity to one of my close friends. I was fucking devastated. Put me outta commission for awhile. Found the PUA community, had a couple healthy relationships with other girls and just recently started talking to my old LJBF. There was mutual attraction/flirting/rapport... etc. We ended up hooking up one night and I caught feelings for her again. I played it cool and didn't really pursue anything with her and kept seeing other girls. Found out today that she just got tag teamed by 2 dudes... and once again... im devastated.

If you have any advice, feel free, but I just needed to get it off my chest. Thanks guys.

That sucks dude, as obviously you had caught feelings.

How serious was your relationship? Where you more of a fuck buddy or did you go out on dates regularly alone etc?


But imo, this is the kind of scenario where I'd feel liberated. In a "well, fuck her" kind of way.


She got double teamed, man.

Is that gf material?


You can do better

It was more inbetween a fuck buddy and being exclusive. We had both expressed that we were at a point in our lives where we wanted to play the field but both said that if something came along, we'd make something happen. She knew I had feelings for her, and I was pretty sure she felt the same way... guess not.

Before I discovered the community, whilst I was going out with my first gf I studied girls and pickup a lot as a personal interest.

One of the first things I learnt was that the idealistic, romantic ideology of exclusive 'love' is definately fickle, if not totally fictional. A girl has two modes of operation - short term and long term.

In the long term, sure, she'll have an exclusive, lovely and loving relationship with you. In the short term, all it takes is a skilled man to seduce her and bed her, because women are lead by their juices as much as we are. I have yet to discover a women with the true will power and determination to avoid being seduced.

Biology/physiology overrides mental capacity in women. Sorry. It's just true. You might have the perfect relationship but discover months later that some dude wacked your girl behind a dumpster outside a club, without a Johnny whilst you were with her. Twice.

I was reading a lay report on mASF the other day, and this dude was SS'ing a women engaged to a man and about to get married in 4 months. The PUA f-closed her, and the whole way she was verbalising how much she didn't want to do this, even whilst he was fucking her. Her mind was desperate to stick with her ideal and she REALLY GENUINELY DID love her to-be husband more than anything, more than the PUA she was fucking, but she could not fight her physiological responses. Get a girl wet and there's nothing she won't do; change her mood not her mind. It's a dirty world.

I'm not saying be cynical and have no faith in women, but change your mindset. Start from a point of cynicism and work your way up to idealism and trust, rather than the other way. By doing this you won't get hurt, because you expect that that is the norm.

I feel for you man. Pick yourself up and keep truckin' on buddy.

Guys, let him chase his chickenhead girlfriend. He obviously finds some sort of value in his anguish.

Do you even contribute? Everytime I see one of your posts you talk down to people and talk shit. It's gotten to the point where if I see your name on the latest post on a thread, I think "let's see what shit he's gonna talk today."

You always prove me right. (Anyone reading this post, do a search on his latest posts and you'll see the master in action.)

You're the type of person that needs to put people down to feel better about yourself and I never understood your kind. Are you mad at god for making you ugly?

daaaaaammn dude da sucks, hard

I'm not putting anyone down; I'm just telling the truth.

This kid is chasing a girl that treats him like shit and makes him miserable. He obviously finds some sort of value in it. Some people like being sad and depressed.

Anyways, go ahead and look up all my posts, and you will see that these criticisms are unfounded. I don't put people down; I give them tough love. I'm not apologizing for it.

It's funny how we always talk about women as viewing us guys as either
future providers" or as "F-buddies". But we are the same way, accept change "provider" to "long term relationship".

Jade how do you view this lady? If you want a romp go for it. SOunds like you got some skill. If you want to go long term, well then let it be. It's the first thing we gotta get straight in our heads before we do anything else.

Remember if you just want to bang this broad, it's not personal. It's a game. Don't worry up what she's up to. Worry about getting what you want and make it happen.

Long term? Dude, that is not looking good. She's already taken a pass on you and formed an opinion. That's almost impossible to change and almost never worth it. By the way, gals who get double teamed have always got some issues... Unless you're ready to join that scene, move on.

The best thing you can do is move on to other girls.

Dude, she got tag teamed by two guys. Two guys probably blew their load on her at the same time. They probably pork roasted or DP'd her too. This girl has no value or purpose in your life except to maybe be part of a harem you create.

There's a difference between tough love and being disrespectful. You're not my boy (even tho you're apparently in love with me judging by how many times you post in this thread).. you don't give me "tough love"... nor do I even like you. I wasn't seeking sympathy, I was venting. Your cheap 2 cents isn't wanted/needed here - there's other threads for you to go flame. This is the "Sticking Points" section if I remember... AKA the mistakes/help part of the forum... I know it's hard to actually contribute and help from a big badboy like yourself, I understand.

Happy hating.

Oh and, hop off mystery's nuts while you're at it. You're gargling his sack pretty hard there, buddy.

I disagree with whoever said that she's low value.

You see something special in her, but shit like her being tag teamed tarnishes what you see. You two might even have excellent chemistry together. You probably see her as some sort of angel and being tag teamed by two dudes isn't angelic at all.

Some people are more sexually open and expressive than others. Some people have fetishes that they want fulfilled or want to otherwise experiment.



You have a severe case of oneitis.



The way I see it, you have two options: Do your absolute best to forget about her. OR Do your absolute best to establish a LTR with her, accepting the fact that she's a kinky girl that likes 2 guys at once (or at least was willing to experiment with it).

I like you; do you like me?

Just an idea... Does she have any hot friends? maybe even one that isnt as hot as her... Game them, dont sleep with them... and see how she reacts. If she gets mad, you can remind her of how she has NO ROOM to tell you anything after her actions/lack of good decision making(then go from there). Also, if she gets upset... she probably has feelings for you. If she doesnt react at all... she doesnt look at you like a future mate, so let it go. She doesnt necessarily have bad morals or have no value. You will never hear the WHOLE story of what happened that night. Maybe she was super drunk- maybe she was taken advantage of- maybe that was a fantasy of hers... good luck!

Hey man, Im in pretty much the same situation. I got the LJBF talk and then she got with one of my friends last night. I mean im pretty upset becasue she obv doesnt care cos she did it riht in front of me. So although I cant give any advice, just know ur not alone.