Not sure if anyone has used this before or already said but this is a close I like to do. If I notice IOIs and can see she wants me to kiss her I act like but then dont. Basically if were at her door or saying good bye, i move in slowly and wait for her to close her eyes and stop and say in a sorta rough voice "ill see you around" and walk off. I usually do this on the second date sometimes the first, but they always call the next day. Im sure this old or something but thought id post

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[God], Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things that I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

But why? I'm guessing you think that her not getting the kiss will want her coming back after, right? Well, if she's willing for the kiss, why not give one, a really good one, that will have her WANTING to come back for more? I wouldn't do what you suggested at the end of the night. You could do it as teasing if you were watching a movie on the couch or something, she goes in for the kiss and you go to the toilet or something. But I don't know about your idea.

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ok, i see your point, its a good one. Its always worked for me, but I dont do it alot. What your saying is do it where its not as high of a risk. But usually the next time is when we go to her house or my house and then the kiss happens which I think makes it better for her, because shes been thinking about it but hey thats just me, you make a good point though. thanks for your opinion

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[God], Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things that I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

why wait till tomorrow, what you could do that day?
If you are escalating appropriately you should KC on the first night, and usually I'm going for SNL.

But if you are trying to wife the girl, you tactic is right on and you might want to try match.com instead of PUA. LOL

If you see that you can K-close. Do it. Just say "Would you like to kiss me?" From there, it is kind of like a "save-point" in a video game. Because you have already kissed her, if you lose something or do something wrong, all is not lost anymore, you can try again.

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I see what you guys are saying, honestly im probably just cocky and think they'll always call the next day, but for me its fun. Im not looking for a relationship, just trying to have fun. If there was a girl i really liked though and I was trying to have a serious relationship with i would definitley kiss her when the time is right.

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Procrastination = No sex.

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Giacomo is right. The longer you wait, the further away it gets.

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To prove a point.
An AFC friend of mine was going after a girl for the past few weeks and when I asked how the whole deal was going along he said they had made out a bit but hadnt escalated past it. I told him to escalate quickly or he would lose it. His reply was along the lines of 'I like her and don't want to screw it up by trying to get sex too early'.

He got LJBFed yesterday.

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Monster, I used to do that trick a lot when i started out, Thinking it would allow me a leg up on her in the power struggle. However it in actuality just prolongs your progress with her. Also it backfired once horribly on me, and tought me the lesson to stop it.

Basically i had this adorable 9.0 5" redhead (god i love redheads and short girls). Anyway i pulled that on her. She wound up not dating me anymore. We "became friends" later and then I asked to get with her again. She said she had wanted to get together b4 but that i didn't kiss her so she thought i wasn't interested. Its the last time i used that trick. I was so pissed at myself. She told me i could have laid her that night too, just to drive it in.

damn, posting this was the worst mistake i ever made beside not kissing the girl jk

Thanks for the advice guys, think im gonna stop before it blows up in my face!

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[God], Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things that I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

I'm sorry but that's just stupid! It's already closed!!! Kiss her and grab her ass! It's done, no need for anything else... 3rd date, lol...

the almost-kiss is nice. let her wait for it and yearn for it. and then let her have it. but walking off....um no. bad.

i know you guys have said this already but i want to spell out the WHY. if anything, to give me a chance to put my thoughts into words and better understand it myself.

an exaggerated example:

a few years back i read this crichtoun novel about a sexual harassment case. this guy and his female boss started making out and foreplaying late one night when they both stayed at work to finish something. they were both naked and ready on the couch in her office and right when he was going to go inside her he regretted it (he was married, with kids). and stopped and left.

she got all upset and said that he did it on purpose to humiliate her. in arbitration (sorta like court) her lawyer argued that purposley getting somebody all worked up and then stopping right at the moment of consumation, is a humiliating and degrading act.

obviously the whole pretend kiss thing is nowhere near that but i think the principle behind it is similar.

teasing and playing, and holding back are all excellent and necesary to building that all powerful sexual tension, but you have to let her have it at the end. leave her better than you found her, right?

your thoughts?

Geez that sucks... I love redheads too.

When I think about that, I'm thinking that her primal reaction was that she felt you weren't enough of a man. Saying that she thought you weren't interested was just her way of describing her feeling. Cause if she just thought you were not interested, but still wanted you, then when you asked her out again, why would she turn it down?