You know very little then. Do not forget that all magicians, Derren included, require their employees to sign non-disclosure agreements and all magicians, Derren included, use lots of stooges. Visit the magic cafe for detailed discussions on Derren Brown.

He's good, no question about it, and if he wasn't gay he'd be quite the pick up artist. But he isn't god.

Thanks I really appreciate that!! Now I'm EVEN MORE convinced!

Before I comment, just to clarify what you said, I know very little about Derren Brown, and about magic. Correct?

And, by inference, you know more than me about Derren Brown, and about magic. Correct? (Unless you know even less.)

As you seem to read all my posts very carefully, you might have judged that a magician would be aware of popular magic websites on the internet.

Magic is creating an illusion, this is created easier with aid from actors/stooges.

Look up the term Claqueur..
Your applause is not false just because you chose to initiate it since those around you did. Is it ?
Your opinions aren't affected by those around you, or are they ?

What other people express about something does affect your perception of it... more often than not.


The same thing, if you see a person that clearly has hypnotic ability, through demonstration on another person, you are more likely to be hypnotized by this person.
No hypnotist claims to be "not a good hypnotist" since that will give people an excuse to not take the suggestions. (Yes, you could say they are hypnotized to not following the suggestions...)


Using suggestions that a person will get drunk, getting the anticipation going because he believes the person is the world's greatest hypnotist, (or at least allows for the possibility that he might be) and then telling his body to signal to itself that he is consuming.. well, no matter, it works.


Because you allow for it to work.

The world is only a string of perceived events... If you perceive something that doesn't "Happen" according to others, does that make a difference ?

All the people who have found Jesus, and tells you he's hidden again and now it's your turn to go out and find him..
The people who feel the presence of Angels.
Those who speak with God.

To them, this is real..
And that is all that matters.

People who believe in psychics will find psychics.
People who look for a pattern will tend to find a pattern.

Our minds are built this way.

Us having a conscious allows us to add experiences that have not happened to our pool of experiences, and they exist, just like those experiences that have happened, in shared reality.
This is what you do with NLP.
Tell the person to tell himself that something isn't how he thought it was, or that he has ingested something he hasn't...

Reality is a vague concept.
As Einstein said "Reality is merely an Illusion, albeit a persistent one"

I never said that I know more about you, I merely pointed out that you know very little. While not a magician, I know several, some who do similar tricks and stage hypnosis. However, the information I have can easily be found on the internet, that is how one knows that you are not a magician, nor do you have a profound knowledge of said tricks.

Well, if you don't know more than me, you must know less. And since, in your own words, I 'know very little', you must be pretty stupid by your own measure. It's not my opinion that you're stupid...it just follows on from what you're saying.

I do wonder why someone who knows even less than 'very little' dares to comment on such matters. I guess it's a result of being very stupid.

If you wish to challenge my knowledge, then do so about specific tricks, not outlandish ad hominem comments. Perhaps the public on this forum will then learn something too, RussianBear =).

And we're off to another one

I wonder who's gonna be the first to take it in stride and fuck off the insinuations and prick-measurement...

"I never said I had a bigger dick than you, I merely pointed out yours is pretty small"....



You guys are a lot of fun.
But please, keep it in the private.
Or start a new thread...
call it "Round 2" or something.

With all due respect, Mr Wolf, I don't intend to fight, if I did I wouldn't have acknowledge him. My reason for replying was because I think you guys can probably learn something if he argues with my knowledge rather than me as a person, hence my last statement.

I think the 'insinuations and prick-measurement' have been kept in private as you have so graciously requested, considering the lovely and charming comments he has made about myself and my mother via private message, to which I have not replied and will not post here or this lovely thread will be locked.

You're a good guy Gamble, I love the reframing you did, which was why I associated it with prick-measurement.
It was too good to go unnoticed.


Battle of wits and knowledge has my support,
It just seemed to me it had potential for becoming another flash-back.

And of course it is not RussianBear.... (And Nixon is "...not a crook"... and the mind is able to process the linguistic negative at an unconscious level... not)

Man, I'm pretty sure you can have the women you want, because you're good... but maybe if you focused on a lower reactivity of what others are saying then you would be a real alpha AND GET ANY WOMEN YOU WANT =)

Unlike you, sir, I am able to communicate without the use of insults and name-calling. Also known as flaming on this site which is not a bannable offense unless you are RussianBear and we know the reasons behind that. We also know that I am not him.

It's so sad that whenever someone disagrees with you you immediately feel threatened by them. I do pity you. However, many have already acknowledged working in a stooge capacity for Mr. Brown. Their stories are quite well known and they have provided ample evidence to back up their stories. Do a little research and try to grow up a bit so that you don't have to resort to name calling. We can do without ad hominem tactics, sir.

Haha...this is actually kind of funny:
Hahaha...me...name calling...needing to grow up? Wow...haha. I don't think I even need to comment. Don't worry though dude, I do like you despite your bad feelings towards my mother and my genital organs. Perhaps we should start over? I believe there is good in everyone. If you know so much then let's help the others on this forum. Mr Wolf is getting tired of our arguing.

To Raphsel, apologies, perhaps your're right.

Is anyone aware of how Derren Brown achieved his Photoreading abilities? And how, in particular, he was able to to create the same ability in a random man he met on the street? I hope people know the episode I'm referring to, because it's not on Youtube unfortunately. The photo reading process involved flicking through books at high speed and supposedly recording 'all' the information into the subconscious, and then being able to recount it when prompted by a question.

It's puzzling because in Tricks of The Mind he derides photo reading as (PP):
"Horseshit."

Any ideas?

Besides that. I have to agree with what's been said, his cold reading abilities are scary and beyond explanation. He has achieved accurate readings on Johnathan Ross (including poofs), Richard Madeley, Stephen Fry and others, who, I trust, are not confederates!

Yes, photoreading is bullshit, I actually went through that scam a couple years ago when I was a little younger and more naive. And yes he does describe it as bullshit in his book Trick of the Mind which I've also read. For the trick itself, I believe he subconsciously forces the librarian to pick the certain book and page numbers. As for memorizing a single page worth of information, you'll know from reading his book that he uses memory techniques which I"ve also found useful for use in my university studying. (his number alphabet systems aren't the best tho, I'd suggest Harry Lorayne or Dominic's books for memory)

Hello there. Thanks for the info. I myself was also very tempted by Photo reading and downloaded a book on it. I read the first page and immediately realized that it was a load of bullshit. It talked about things like freeing your mind and letting go of your inhibitions. alarm bells right there.

I am aware of the episode with the librarian, but there is a far more impressive episode where he teaches a man to use the technique. The man photoreads a lot of books and then competes in a quiz where he answers every question correctly. It's hugely impressive.

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