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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:27 pm 
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We use the abbreviation Kino for kinesthetic, basically meaning touch.

You use Kino every day, every time you touch something or someone.

It can be found in all types of forms, from brushing something out of a girl’s hair or hugging her to having sex with her.

Here are some listed examples of Kino that you can use:
Shaking hands
Hugging
Pecking each other on the cheek
Pushing her away from you / pulling her towards you
Linking arms
Kissing
Negging or complimenting her on her self adornment while picking it up and examining it i.e. rings.
Leaning in and smelling her (yes it counts)
Slapping her on her ass
Foot rub

ANYTHING which involves you coming into physical contact with her.

**Hint - Kino is always best when your skins contact each others and cause friction, so for example, try to lose the gloves.

As pickup artists, we can use Kino in a way which is a beneficial tool to us.

For example, if you had not touched her for the entire night when suddenly you lean in and try to kiss her, she is more likely to reject you as you have not established any comfort in touching. Now all of a sudden you want to kiss her? Way out of her comfort zone.

So MAKE IT IN HER COMFORT ZONE. How? Touch before that point.

In fact begin the touching as soon as you enter the set. You’re just a touchy guy!

But be warned, if you touch too quickly under the wrong circumstances, using too heavy Kino, you could get yourself in trouble (like pulling down her trousers before you even say a word lol!)

So for this reason, along with not wanting to seem intrusive and too direct, you should begin the Kino at about 14-20 seconds in. I understand it’s hard to be exact, but its only roughly.

From THAT point onwards, every time you touch is Kino escalation. You escalate the touching, making her more comfortable.

THIS WAY when we do make a move, the chances are that she will be comfortable with it.

It also establishes the fact that you are more than friends. But be careful of this one, it depends on the frame (context or circumstances) of the Kino.
For example, if you hug each other or pat her on the back trying to comfort her, that’s what we call friendly Kino. Friends do that all the time. Hell guys do that with each other, and guys tend to be less comfortable with their sexuality for Christ’s sakes.

So what we want for the frame is more than friendly Kino. Sexual framing baby. This is the difference from a boy and a man (chiefs words lol <) and more importantly the difference between a friend and more than a friend. An example of this would be your hand on her knee, or even better her hand on yours.

Most guys think that every bit of Kino means that they are really hitting it off with the girl and that she likes him, so the touching is a really big deal.

**Hint - If you believe it’s a big deal, she will pick up on this. Do you want her to think that you are overwhelmed by the smallest bit of touching with her? (If your answer to this is yes read my value thread) of course not. You want her to pay no attention to the touching, just want her to be comfortable with it.

So the guy will carry on escalating, (He may not give any Kino at all - to show her that he’s ‘respectful’ and ‘uncaring about the physical stuff’) and just aim for that one special kiss at the end of the night to make his week. Wow don’t you wish you were as caring and respectful as this guy? Even if he got no where? You can be caring and respectful, and still have results.

The main thing is act like its no deal for you. It’s nothing. If your frames strong, then she will follow your judgments and she too will think it’s no big deal. I saw a guy a few days ago on the forum, buzzed up because he kiss closed a girl he liked for years. Great, I understand the buzz, it feels great when you are granted something that you have been denied for years, but if you honestly believe it’s a big deal the chances are you’re more likely to screw up.

Something else that you don’t want to do is escalate without some decrease in Kino. I am referring to push pull. Think of it as Kino mixed signals. One step forwards, two steps back, three steps forward. You be the one to make the moves, and give resistance. You can do it without this if you have a strong enough frame, tight game and a dick for fame, but otherwise you may encounter some problems:
1. ASD (Anti slut defense). She may well want to escalate also, but then she risks social exclusion (basically being called a slag), jeopardizing her survival, which is worth far more than her replication is to her.
2. Buyers remorse (A form of ASD) if you DO escalate too far without stopping, too quickly, she may enjoy it at the time, but the next morning she may regret it, and feel a slut, also risking facing social exclusion if she meets up with you again. Its far easier for her and her friends to forget it and pretend it never happened. If you have just kiss closed for the first time and you begin with the touching in the same kiss, ask yourself, is this touching foreplay? If so, the chances are you have transitioned far too fast, so STOP. I don’t care if its her doing the touching, say whoa slow down there speedy.
3. LMR (last minute resistance) Im not going to go into depths, but before sex you will hit resistance where this time, she’s the one saying stop. Obviously we can deal with this, but we want a smooth run.

Some examples of Kino push pull:
Embrace her with a hug and then throw her away
Having linked arms for a while, they will get hot. Say right that’s your lot and throw her arm away.
Brush from her fringe downwards towards her mouth with your finger, and say, you have dirt on your face, then rub it off.
You see she has fake nails. Pick up her hand and say, I love your nails are they real?
I love that skirt its so hot (touching), another girl down there who has just fell over on me is wearing it, along with my drink =D (drop the skirt - I mean let go - not drop it round her ankles :P)

The best thing is the first two are also compliancy tests.

Never be predictable with your push pull Kino, one way of confuzzling her is being nice when your not touching, and being nasty when you are touching. She will be expecting the exact opposite. Beware, you don’t want to anchor negative connotations to you touching her, so sometimes reverse it and be nice when touching and nasty when not touching, making her crave validation, which happens to involve you touching her. Great way to escalate. =D. Usually it’s the guy who escalates and the girl who resists. You should have dominant frame, and you should lead everything, including the escalations. How do we show that we are in charge of Kino? Making the moves, resisting, and using your touch showing that you’re the leader. Don’t know what I mean by this? If you’re holding hands with her, your hand should always be the one in front, hers the one behind, you’re protecting her palms whilst leading. Great isn’t it? How small changes change everything? So you be the one to go for her hand, hold her hand dominantly, and you be the one to throw her hand away and say ok that’s your lot. This is a compliancy test.

There is also Kino pinging, which is also compliancy test, for example squeeze her hand and if she squeezes back its Kino pinging. Same with kicking. People will soon be telling you to get a room. Mystery claims this is a good thing, but I disagree, it draws her away from you. ASD. So instead do it when her friends are not looking. Makes it more secret and exciting.

When we touch something before it touches us, we show our dominance over it.

Basically it communicates that you know it will not harm you as you have already assessed them, and you have no problem when it comes to marking it as yours.

This is great for AMOGing. It lets them know they do not threaten you, and that you are dominant.

Of course if they have not been trained to recognize this then they will not be conscious of the fact that you have dominated them, neither will the group, but they will all pick up on it subconsciously.

So when you enter a set and shake hands with the guys, make sure you do it first. When they shake your hand, they have validated themselves to you, if they don’t, then they have failed to validate themselves to you, and besides to the group they will make themselves look VERY bad if they don’t shake your hand when your being this friendly. Tom Cruise is the shit when it comes to AMOG, watch his Kino. Puts his arm on the side of their shoulder/top of their arm and with the other hand shakes away happily =D. When he does this he is actually keeping their arms at bay, containing them and restrained them from attacking him. He has compressed them in a single handshake.

When you pass them don’t be scared to give them a pat on the back to establish your dominance.


But what if they are touchy touchy? The trick is size. Not physical size, but what you do with your body. Always be the widest. That’s key. Don’t mean get to MacDonald’s and order everything you can. I mean cage them with your arms and hands when it comes to Kino. Every time you pat them, or take the widest Kino layer, you have successfully compressed them down and restrained them. You are then free to attack whenever you wish.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:08 am 
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Excellent summary! Thank you.


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He he, I like this new V1V explains stuff series! :)

Seriously thank you for spending time on this, it is comprehensible and simplified. Great work!

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He he, I like this new V1V explains stuff series! :)

Seriously thank you for spending time on this, it is comprehensible and simplified. Great work!
Lol yeah im typin up stuff like this pretty much everyday apart from on friday saturday and sundays lol.

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thanks man very specific helps a lot, if you can include kino involving routines next time it would be great


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I'd like to escalate my kino, and would also like to request if anyone has some kino routines I can use? Some basic stuff for hugging, touching, or pretty much anything would be awesome. I'm stuck in attraction phase right now, so if anyone can help me lift my game to the next level, I'd appreciate it. Currently I'm great at opening and the conversation, and have gotten good at number closing, but I need to progress. Also, if anyone can give me some easy/fun compliance tests I can use, that'd be awesome.


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I'd like to escalate my kino, and would also like to request if anyone has some kino routines I can use? Some basic stuff for hugging, touching, or pretty much anything would be awesome. I'm stuck in attraction phase right now, so if anyone can help me lift my game to the next level, I'd appreciate it. Currently I'm great at opening and the conversation, and have gotten good at number closing, but I need to progress. Also, if anyone can give me some easy/fun compliance tests I can use, that'd be awesome.
what are you exactly after? Heavy or light?
DIY. Find your own and be creative.
The general rule to a primary physical compliancy test is kino escalate and then some form of retraction/pull away. Your testing to see her reaction, and calibrate from it.

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This is some serious sh!t ! :) I was looking for this real bad, when I found out I was rejected by a girl due to lack of kino and being unassertive.


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