How long has it taken you from the first lesson you learned or first book you opened on PU, to knowing before you walk into a set that regardless of whether your ready or not, the minute you open your mouth, shit is just going to come out and work for you almost as if it was effortless? I guess more specifically, how long is that first hump known as newbie? And what did you guys do to help overcome it?

It took me about a solid 4 months of going out to feel that I could do that way. The only real way to overcome the hump is to get out there. Book/Video/Audio Tape knowledge is great stuff but it doesn't take place of real world experience. It's like playing action video games vs. actually being in combat.

It takes varying amounts of time for people. These are typically based on:

*how often they go out

*how socially calibrated they already are

*their willingness to fail and learn

*their ability to learn quickly

*how many sets they open when they go out

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My sticking point at the moment is keeping my game consistent but if I am on a good night I can be pretty sure things will work. I started reading etc about 5 months ago.

But just keep going and if you ever start doubting in your ability look at how you are doing now then how you did before

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I read the book "The Game" in one week and then I took one more week before I dared to go out. (Yes I re-read the book.)

I approached like 3-5 sets every time I went out. I agree with Jsmooth here. It is all based on how often you go out and what you make of your time in the field. I went out alone when I started and that was great training. The disadvantage is that you dont have anyone to tell you what you do wrong. On the other hand you do not get distracted, you HAVE to approach. It took me 4 months until my first F-close using only game and in the same night. Numberclose took like 2 months.

You HAVE to be ready to crash and burn!

You HAVE to accept failure as a way to learn.

You HAVE to try!

I had the advantage of being pretty social and have a lot of female friends. And cocky and funny. BUT the most important thing, almost no approach anxiety!
Practice makes perfect!

Get out there and you will soon forget that you were ever a newbie...

Not really true, we all feel like newbies sometimes. I learn new things every day!

Ezo

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Numberclose took you 2 months? And you already had femalefriends? man, i had no femalefriends at all and from my first PU-numberclose i closed 82 girls in 4 months. Last year of course!