This is an amazing thing which I think I have used every night since I learnt it. Ideally it should get you blown out, so is good for the start of the night, although I keep getting pretty good results with it.
Now onto the opener, 3 questions, pure frame.

Question 1;
"Hey how's it going?"
Question 2;
"What are you up to tonight?"
Question 3;
"Do you fancy coming back to mine?"

Don't fluff or beat around the subject ask those questions and hold your frame.

Almost inevitably you will get a response along the lines of her laughing then telling you to fuck off, hold that damn frame and tell her you could see she considered it. Then you are talking and have established you are ballsy, shown interest and set a sexual tone.
Enjoy

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Jaaaaaaaaaaay ah man I cant sarge with no apocalapsye shite/

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I just dont like what it brings. If she has a boyfriend then its not great. Chances are shell just say she has one. You will hit fuck loads of resistance. Loads of other problems aswell.
I just look at it and think afc afc afc

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me too man, I started using it instead of "hey, can you shoot me down?" at the start of the night. I think a little rejection is great but I have noticed it works surprisingly well and with the right frame could make for the quickest pickup ever.

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my wing does at least one appocalypse per nite and has scored plenty of times with it . it works great when you are sober , a massive dhv in itself . its all about the delivery and not rushing it and of course your frame

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This is pretty much all I ever do when it comes to bars and clubs. Mainly because when I go out, it's to get massively drunk and have a laugh with the guys... I meet girls out and about all the time and just can't be bothered with them when I'm out in the evening, but if I spy one I like then I go in with this. It really does work a surprising amount of the time, and if you don't take a nice girl home you're guaranteed to have one hell of a fun conversation with her so it's win-win as far as I'm concerned.

One thing I really wanna point out is that I don't word it the way you've put it, and there's damn good reason for this. If you flat out ask her the way you've worded it, then she either says yes or no. And even with rock solid frame, she'll still say no most of the time because it doesn't really challenge her or make her think, and it doesn't exactly give her the impression that you're expecting her to say yes either. Not to mention she won't know to take you seriously or not.

I'm not gonna tell you how I word this aproach here, and not because its some crazy secret and complicated shit - but because it's not just what you're saying that makes it work. You need to have the right frame and attitude to really get results... if you have the kind of frame to pull it off, by all means you can ask me via PM. Be prepared to answer a few quessies first though.

I used it only once, but it was to impress friends. Well, my friends didn't think I could get a girl to kiss me in under 2 minutes...

It was totally out of character for me, but I read the apocalypse opener a little while back and thought it wouldn't hurt to try... I went in with a "I don't care" attitude... I really wanted to fail actually...

I didn't use it to get laid, but just to get a kiss...

It was in a loud bar so I had to talk loud in her ear... We as a group were dancing close to a group of girls and they were taking pictures. I was being funny and hopped in the background a few and sometimes threw my arms around them acting like I knew them when they were taking the pictures.. they laughed and kept giving me the eye throughout the night...

Then my friends dared me... or said I couldn't get a kiss from one of them...

So I guess since I had a few IOIs, I was at an advantage...

[ME]: Hey, what's your name?
[HB8]: Blah
[ME]: Are y'all having fun tonight?
[HB8]: Yeah!
[ME]: Blah, do you wanna kiss me right now - no strings attached? (I had a huge smile and convinced myself not to break eye contact until I got an answer)
[HB8]: (She looked at me to see if I was for real or not. It felt like eternity because I was holding eye contact. She never said yeah, but smiled and nodded real big)

Her friends broke out into laughter once we started kissing. I smiled at her, then walked away to my friends... I didn't want to high five them and make it look like a bet haha... So I just looked at them and laughed...

--QB

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Conveys alpha, however, thats it. Fools mate. Otherwise all the other PUAs are wasting their time with MM etc.

"what if i kissed you" after a few ioi's and isolation works, none of this "are you spontanious" bull.

I actually had just read this opener on Bristol Lair.

I would have immediately blown it off, but from conversations I've had with female friends, it seemed like it could work. They always say how they hate guys that try to be subtle about it and would prefer the guys being straight up.

Then again, they're comparing it to AFC stuff and not true game.

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