I hate bars!!! ok i'm just going to vent. Last night i went out with some friends. I went to a place where i had to wait in line, in the freezing cold to get in, then had to check my coat and the line to get upstairs (where all the dancing is) was like a 45 min wait! so mooooore waiting. so we ended up leaving and taking a cab (more money!) to another bar. we waited in another long ass line in the freeeeeeezing cold to get into a bar that plays your typical bar songs. I ALWAYS seem to end up at these bars where i hear journey and bon jovi 18 times! These are the type of songs that i heard EVERY weekend in college, you could always tell what the time was by the song being played!

I live in the city and i am in walking distance to a TON of bars but i always end up going to the ones that piss me off. i usually start the night off at my friends place first and we always take too many cabs, go to too many crappy, bon jovi type places, where everyone is soooo loving those songs and i'm just not into it at all. then i end up in an annoyed mood which is not good for trying to pick up women. AND i really dont like the girls that constantly go to the bars i always end up going to!!!!!!!

also i really dont have any good wingmen.

i really dont know where this is going, i just told myself last night that i really do not want to spend all of this money going out at places that i really dont like because they are too loud, have crappy music, long lines and you can barely walk inside. its literally impossible to meet women there the way i want, you really have to just creep up to them, start dancing etc.

PLEASE i know its obvious what i need to do, i just need to read the advice from someone else. so dudes just give me some advice, tell me where to go and sarge!!!!

haha thanks!

it seems like your just following the crowd! grow a backbone and say we're going to _____ this weekend. if ur friends disagree go with someone who will go with you.

other option find new friends.

for years i ended going up to the same places because my friends went there and the music was rubbish and the girls not my type so its all negative the minute u step through the door.

personally i like sarging not at clubs but in bars early in the evening or with friends of friends on day trips or activities during the day. there not drunk and have to be nice from the off. if u mess it up with them on these days then its all ur fault

simple solution: if u know a place is going to be crowded why dont u go out earlier so u dont have to wait in long ass lines.

I don't understand your problem. You have access to TONS of different bars, but still choose to go to the crappy ones and even wait 45min. to enter
I mean - go to the good bars instead, problem solved?