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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:16 pm 
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What your clothes tell people
So, you have been practicing your body language and got it all down to a science, still not seeing results? It could be your clothes.

You could have alpha body language but are just hiding it under baggy clothes. The truth is slim fitting clothes act as a double edged sword both for attracting girls, and neutralizing amogs.

My favorite example are skinny jeans. To girls, skinny jeans express confidence and sex appeal. Its not wonder that virtually every major rock star wears them. Girls will immediately notice a guy wearing skinny jeans because not many guys have the confidence to wear them.
This makes it important that you are always on your game. While wearing things like slim fitting clothing it is easy to stand out in a bad way because you don't feel comfortable with them. For this reason, even if you don't feel comfortable in them you must have your body language expressing alpha qualities anyway (See articles on body language in my blog for details).

The best part about wearing skinny jeans is that the amogs that will be with the girls you are about to pick up will automatically assume one of three things;
1) You're gay
2) Will make fun of you for them (showing insecurity on their part, easily handled by the PUA)
3) Will think you are cool as well'

If they choose to act any of these 3 ways, it gives you the upper hand.
1) If they think you are gay, you are completely non threatening to them. They will not act hostile towards you because they have no fear of you picking up their girls. The same for the girls you are about to pick up, they will not feel threatened and you can sneak in under the radar and unsuspectingly make your move!
2) If an amog tries to make fun of you while you are in set for what you are wearing, never insult him back, it wont go anywhere, you are walking into his social circle and basically he is shit testing you to make you show unappealing characteristics to the girls in the group. There are many amog tactics that can be used in these situations, but never, ever return an insult with another insult. It goes no where and you will blow yourself out of the set by showing that he got to you, its better to not respond and continue as if you didnt even hear them.
3)This one goes without explanation, if the amog thinks you are cool then youre in.

Just as skinny jeans can have this gret of an effect so can slimmer fitting t shirts, dress shirts, sweaters, anything. The truth is, that if you are wearing slim fitting clothes people can SEE your body language. There is no use wasting hours and hours practicing your body language only to cover it up with baggy clothing.

Ultimately, slim fitting clothing allows your body language to become visible to those around you. Become comfortable in slim fitting clothes, at first you might feel feminine or gay in them, but get used to it. Eventually you will feel like a rockstar, if you need any motivation just google image any of your favorite rock stars and you will see that almost all of them are wearing slim fitting clothing


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Excelent post.

I tend to wear tighter fitting shirts, but I still cant get into wearing skinny jeans. They're so damn uncomfortable! But there are some great points here.


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most girls dont like skinny jeans, cause they like manly looking guys

plus, i cant wear skinny jeans cause my nutz dont fit :D


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I know I am no fashion wiz, but why are there people promoting skinny jeans for guys? Don't they realize that they only work on certainly body types? I am all for fitted clothing, but you need to dress to your body as everyone's body shape/frame is different.


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Personally i think skinny jeans dont work on 90% of guys. If your tall especially it makes your legs look to thin for your body! (i'm not tall, but an old friend at 6'3 wore skinnies one day and it was embarrassing the way girls laughed behind his back)

For guys I honestly think the best looking jeans are striaght leg with an appropriate crotch length, none of this wearing your jeans half way down ur arse either! The back pockets shouldnt go lower than you butt otherwise things tend to look a bit strange, this the crotch length is important. Straight leg is also very important, it gives the same benifits of skinnies on your upper thighs and butt to show off a good body, but dont make your lower thighs and lower look to small for your body.

As for upperbody i totally agree, maybe not skin tight T's for everyone (i wear them but i have nice muscles to show though, if your really thin it will just make you look to small in my opinion) and all jackets/jumpers etc i wear are what i call fitted: works to the shape of a mans body without being skin tight (which doesnt look right ontop of a shirt) and taper in to your waist, just below belt level.

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I'm one of the lucky few that looks good in skinny jeans. I'm also a "rocker" or whatever you want to call me, so it fits me well. I'm not faking it or anything and I think people can see that.


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Its true, it does take a lot to wear skinny jeans, personally ive worn them for a couple years now so im completely comfortable in them. And thats whati t is all about. From my expierience wearing skinny jeans will make you more appealing to HB9's and 10's but will actually decrease your chances with girls 8 and under. Most HB 9's and 10's themselves actaully dress pretty wildly, perhaps its becuase they have the confidence to wear wild clothes, or something i am unaware of, but some of the hottest girls ive met are always wearing things that are a bit out of the ordinary. By the same token I have seen that these girls have a mutual respect for men who wear slightly strange things (lending itself to the peacock theory).
On the other hand, most HB8's and under dress to fit in, their appearance isnt significant enough to turn heads which leaves a lot of them wanting to just "blend in", thus having respect for others who just "blend in".

That is purely my opinion and i am looking forward to seeing what others think. While skinny jeans are just one isolated example of dressing differently, i do feel strongly that a PUA should wear clothes that fit, nothing too baggy that will conceal their hard earned alpha body language!


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For guys I honestly think the best looking jeans are striaght leg with an appropriate crotch length, none of this wearing your jeans half way down ur arse either! The back pockets shouldnt go lower than you butt otherwise things tend to look a bit strange, this the crotch length is important. Straight leg is also very important, it gives the same benifits of skinnies on your upper thighs and butt to show off a good body, but dont make your lower thighs and lower look to small for your body.
I have found for us tall guys that as long as the straight leg pants are loose they do quite well actually. As fitted has that skinny jean thing and baggy is gangster like.


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The only problem with straight leg is that they can make you look very beanpole like from the side depending on how tall and slim you are. I have been searching for a good pair of jeans for ages and recently found a Hugo Boss pair that are tight in the backside, but fairly loose lower down in the leg. They might be a bit too straight from the side, but what can I do? I just have to accept that at 6ft 4 with slim legs there isn't a great fit out there - or if there is the shops will never stock a 36 leg for me to try on.

Also, regarding the view from the side, I find that wearing straight leg means I have to be careful to make sure any t-shirt or jacket I wear sits close to my body at the bottom, otherwise from the side it will look like 2 long matchsticks coming down out of a lampshade.


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The only problem with straight leg is that they can make you look very beanpole like from the side depending on how tall and slim you are. I have been searching for a good pair of jeans for ages and recently found a Hugo Boss pair that are tight in the backside, but fairly loose lower down in the leg. They might be a bit too straight from the side, but what can I do? I just have to accept that at 6ft 4 with slim legs there isn't a great fit out there - or if there is the shops will never stock a 36 leg for me to try on.
I am surprise at your height you would need a 36 inch leg. As far as looking like a beanpole goes, that pretty much goes for any tall guy that is above 6'3". As most clothes for guys are made and aimed for guys that are 6'3" and shorter.
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Also, regarding the view from the side, I find that wearing straight leg means I have to be careful to make sure any t-shirt or jacket I wear sits close to my body at the bottom, otherwise from the side it will look like 2 long matchsticks coming down out of a lampshade.
It sounds like your not dressing to your body.


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It sounds like your not dressing to your body.
Come on, Jurupa. That's far too vague to make use of. The only options I seem to have to disguise the narrow look from the side are either to wear long shirts or jackets that will hang down past my backside and therefore give the illisuion of shorter legs and a longer upper body. Or I can accept I will look narrow from the side, but make sure any shorter top I wear sits close to the body at the bottom.

The strange thing is that despite being on the slim side, I have a wiry build, which means my upper legs and backside are not small. I have to be able to show off my backside, as it is about the only asset I have got. If I cover it up with a long shirt people will naturally assume I am on the slimmer side and therefore have a flat butt, which is not the case.

Regarding my leg length, some people have longer legs and a shorter upper body, and vice versa. I am really trying to dress to my body type, but long legs in relation to the upper body length produces its own problems - especially from the side. I'm not sure a taller guy who has a more evenly proportioned upper body and legs can appreciate this.


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It sounds like your not dressing to your body.
Come on, Jurupa. That's far too vague to make use of. The only options I seem to have to disguise the narrow look from the side are either to wear long shirts or jackets that will hang down past my backside and therefore give the illisuion of shorter legs and a longer upper body. Or I can accept I will look narrow from the side, but make sure any shorter top I wear sits close to the body at the bottom.
I know what I said is vague, but I don't know what you look like physically.
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The strange thing is that despite being on the slim side, I have a wiry build, which means my upper legs and backside are not small. I have to be able to show off my backside, as it is about the only asset I have got. If I cover it up with a long shirt people will naturally assume I am on the slimmer side and therefore have a flat butt, which is not the case.
One of the downsides of being tall is that you usually have to give up showing off some short of assets. Have you tried on different pants with different styles? As straight leg may not be the best fit for you. I know there is a website were you can order custom jeans from. I can't think of the name right now but if I find it I post the link to it. This website allows you to pretty much customize every part of the jean. The jeans are not cheap tho as I believe they run like $100 per pair.
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Regarding my leg length, some people have longer legs and a shorter upper body, and vice versa. I am really trying to dress to my body type, but long legs in relation to the upper body length produces its own problems - especially from the side. I'm not sure a taller guy who has a more evenly proportioned upper body and legs can appreciate this.
Us tall guys tend not to have proportional bodies. I have "short" legs and a long torso, which presents its own problems as you can imagine. So I know the frustration you are going thru trying to find pants/jeans that fit.


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I seen an Indian website where they offered that kind of service. I am limited in what I can try on as most stores don't stock a 36 leg in London. Buying off the internet is problematic so best avoided. I would like to try Nudies, but again they are not available in my size to try on.

I have gone with straight leg as the sacrafice I will have to make is looking a bit different from the side. I can't spend any longer trying to find jeans that don't exist. If I do happen to find them then good, if not then I will stick with my straight leg Hugo Boss for now. Anyway there are some possibilities with shops like Replay and G-Star. I'm just waiting for them to get their new collections in.

I imagine a longer torso would just be the opposite. You could wear a shorter top and higher rise jean to give the opposite illusion of longer legs, but then it's never that easy.


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I generally don't wear so to say a "skinny" jean or a "loose leg" but rather a combination of both. The jeans go a bit tight around the crotch, butt, and thigh area, and then loosen up a bit after they pass the knee. Almost like a bellbottom-esque style, and I've found they work great for me. I am also 6'2'', and sometimes I wear frye boots which will make me look about 6'5''. I find these give a nice "in-between" skinny and loose leg jeans. I wear them all the time and have close anywhere from 7's to 10's.


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Sorry but what's a straight leg jeans? English is my 3d language so sorry for the question.

I looked images on google, I typed straight leg jeans and i just see jeans that look like usual jeans to me.

I have much problems finding good jeans, I have pretty large legs which i think look pretty good in jeans. Problem is that much jeans (almost all) that I try are pretty tight around my tigh, so whenever I go looking for jeans to buy I often don't by them because I think they feel too tight. But i think I should care a bit less about that because I guess every jeans (except horrible super large ones) will always feel a bit tight especially when I walk up stairs or something like that, right?

(by the way; are you all giants here or what? Am I the only one a bit below average? :P)


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