Hey guys,
Here's my report for the night - I have some questions but mainly just comments. It was an interesting situation tonight but it was one that I think a lot of guys have to be running into. It was one of my friend's birthday parties so we went over to his house where he was having a small party (20 people or so).

As soon as I got there I saw an HB7.5 and an HB9. I had never met them before but they knew all of my friends so at no point of time was there ever a need for openers and since it was such a small party there was no really legitimate possibility of time constraints or anything like that. The other thing was that there were like 15 guys and like 5 girls. At first I made an active effort to be in conversations that they were in but not pay any attention to them and I had plenty of social proofing because I knew everybody else at the party. I talked to the girls occasionally and just tried my best to be the social focus of the party after a while 4 of the girls came up and introduced themselves to me!

I talked to one of the guys who I had never met. We got along really well and then I found out that he was the HB7.5's older brother (eek). So first I started talking to the HB7.5. I pulled the best friend's routine and besides that just talked for a while. I made sure I was locked in so the entire time it felt like she was gaming me. We got along really well and then we were on the couch alone and I asked "would you like to kiss me?" She said she really would but her brother freaks out when that kind of thing happens. I said "ok, so we'll just sneak a quick one." She kissed me, we laughed, and we kept talking.
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How would you guys go about dealing with an older brother who freaks out when his sister gets with guys? It's not really an AMOG situation

I left for a while and later the girl was talking to some other guys. I went into their conversation and tried to steal the light. The guys weren't pushing me out, but the HB7.5 wouldn't fucking stop talking. After a while I could pretty sick of her and started going for the HB9. I was on a real good vibe and me and the HB9 connected right away. We talked about a whole bunch of shit and I was lightly teasing her the whole time. she was a little drunk so every time she would slur words I would call her out on it. It was going great. I did a whole bunch of style's routines like "omg, we're getting married" "fuck that i'm breaking up with you" blah blah blah. I was having a looooooot of trouble isolating her. This wasn't because I couldn't do it, but rather because the party was in a really small apartment so everywhere we went there were people. After a while we started talking to other people. I talked to her again later but by this point of time she was realllly messed up and just like lying down. Being retarded and not realizing that I had completely missed the window of opportunity, I talked to her for a while and asked if she wanted to kiss me. She didn't directly say no but she gave me some bullshit answer.
<----- Question 2! ----->
What do you guys do if a girl says no there? I realize it means I fucked up before - but once you're in that situation, what do you say?

Anyways the night ended because some kid started trying to get fights going and it was dumb. The brother of the HB7.5 got pissed off at her (not because of me - just randomly) and made her leave so I couldn't get her number and the HB9 passed out somewhere.

Anyways, summary - It was a pretty good night game-wise but I feel like a dumbass for not closing the HB9 before and I feel like a HUGE dumbass for not getting their numbers. Any tips for advances on facebook/myspace?

Talk to you all soon I'm sure,
IIIIIIIIsraellllllllll

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You're not gonna be having any less sex with her if you don't talk to her.

I forgot to include this before. When I was talking to the HB9, the HB7.5 would come in and start talking and just NOT STOP. How do you guys get a way from a girl who just won't get off you and just won't stop talking?

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You're not gonna be having any less sex with her if you don't talk to her.

I am new, so I am not sure if I have the best advice; but I would just simply neg her until she leaves or stops talking. If she comes up and starts blathering like a buzzed little attention monger, call her on it.

Here are a couple example of "calling her on it" - I am willing to take advice too


When she starts talking, lay your head on your shoulder or back and snore loudly (with a smile on your face of course) like you fell asleep. She will giggle and make some reaction to that, then start talking again,. Just do that over until she says something like "oh, fine, i'll let you talk"

When she starts talking, just give her a nasty look, but in a joking manner....so that she thinks you are joking, when you really are not

When she comes over, ask if she would be interested in meeting some other people. When she says yes (which she is going to do - loves attention - thats why she won't shut up), you GET UP from where you are at *this will help isolate target, if you are not already isolated* and say they are over here. You grab your HB9's hand, and guide her along with you to point out a couple people for the HB7. Walk up to a group, introduce the HB7 and as soon as she opens her mouth to do a greeting, you walk away with the HB9.

or, if you don't care to close at all with the HB7, ask her nicely to socialize with someone else; you are trying to have a serious conversation about *insert something you know the HB7 would not be interested in*


With the third scenario, that will also give you some more Kino with the HB9, isolation ability, and (even though you said you did not need it) social proof. You are also turning into the nice quy trying to entertain someone who you were not even obligated to help!

Again, I would put these out as tips, but they are not tried nor true.

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I'm definitely digging that last scenario man. I need to get better at just grabbing the girl I'm targeting and moving her around.

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locke is a kool dude, leading a girl through a crowd takes guts, cause 1 she could grab ur hand real lightly like shes not sure, that gives you the opportunity to throw it down and be in control while walking through a crowd but risky 2 if you don't have enough value she might not grab your hand at all, and 3 she just might not go with you. but then again thats a bigass waypoint if she complys and lets u have ur way with her on the move,

that is some kool shit, acting like ur sleeping im using that tommoro night.

when a girl says no her standards are either high, or u suck. say, "i didn't say u could kiss me, i just thought you had something on your mind," or "i was just being polite, i wasn't really that interested".(kudos 2 mystery) your the leader not her, your the one with the better answer not her

ok with the brother, why not shoot the shit some more with him, make hime your fuckin best friend. If you do he will give u that 7 on a silver platter. on a final note don't use myspace or e-mail shit 2 get a girl, unless you feel u got a real diamond on ur hands that u stumbled upon on the computer, it comes across as chunky, you always wanna shoot for a 2nd meeting and plan it when ur talking 2 ur target the 1st time, NOT on the phone, unless u feel the need

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I do not care how nice a guy is to me....my best friend of 5 years tried to mac on my younger sister. Nuh uh, that aint happnin.

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If u do mystery's kiss close routine and u'r target won't cooperate ex by saying no i would use a bazookas neg For instance:

TNT:Would u like to kiss me?
HB: Blahblah,,,, no
TNT: Oh thank God because there's sth stuck in your teeth...!

You know, sth like that so as to keep the frame

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Hahahaha thanks guys - the "shit on your teeth" bit was great.

Just an update - I know I shouldn't have tried to keep going online but I sent her a message that was very neutral not asking her to hang out or anything and she messaged me back saying "I don't know if I gave you my phone number or not so here it is: ##########. We should hang out call me sometime!"

Israel is happy

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You're not gonna be having any less sex with her if you don't talk to her.

Ideas for isolation:

1. If you smoke, tell her to go outside with you.

2. Tell her to come outside, you "want to show her something". But when you get outside, just say "I just wanted to talk to you alone" or something.

3. At some earlier point in the night, tell her to meet you at this spot (whether it is in the apartment or outside) at XX:XX time. When it gets to that time, remind her a little before playfully.

4. Ignore the rest of the party and just go into the room that the brother isn't in and isolate.

I dunno if all of these will work, but this is what I came up with real fast before I have to get back to work (silly jobs).

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