Ok so I am not really new to the PUA thing but this girl has me stumped! I post before about this girl she is a very good looking, very stuck up! and shit tests like crazy! she told me she thinks im cute ect ect...she has been texting me and msging me.

Today in my college class I see so as she walked buy I just look at her smile and say whats up loser? she just looks at me says "hi" and then goes and sits down....haha I was shocked because at the time I was with two other girls chating, and I know she is atleast some what into me....This girl is by far the hardest girl to figer out and build confort with!!!! I am stumped I need help....Im not sure what I should do now? but she really interests me because I have never not been able to get the girl I wanted???? so help me out please!

she had a blank look on her face when she said hello....no emotion and she looked away right away. I can not read her at all! shs has an odd personality but seem extremely smart!

She's probably SHY, try to be with her alone (not with girls on your side) and try to get HER to carry a conversation.

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2 choices either Fade away, or go down blazing!

I hung out with her on monday after seeing her at the bar for like 5 hours and she was not shy at all! mabey she is just shy around people iduno.

some people are situationally shy. All my life I've been shy in the classroom, but the biggest extrovert you will meet everywhere else.

Change your venue.

If she is still cool, maybe she heard a rumor that you need to dispel, maybe her friend likes you and she feels bad, there are so many factors that could come into play. But I'd say, first step...venue change.

Oh My God! Really???? She shit tests you like crazy!?! So she just said hi and that's it? Like what a huge shit test? Holy shit, I'm shittin' my pants right now!?!?

OK, OK . . . I'm pulling your leg here but come on man . . . You sound like some ditzy chick having a "hissy fit." You haven't made this girl sound ANY different from 1,000's of other women out there. She's a chick. She's got tits, ass, and a vagina. You want a taste because you're a MAN. Then damn it, act like a man.

1. Breathe . . . refer to that "breathing post that Seanmessenger wrote up". Breathe, breathe, breathe. This is very important.

2. STOP looking for signs, tests, or reactions. You don't know what to look for nor do you know how to identify them. The more you "dig", the more you're going to come up with some shit that will mess you up emotionally.

3. Start linking texts with real life. Don't end your texts like, "Cool . . that was funny." Instead, end your texts with things like, "Lol . . hey, I'll see you in class. I have this funny joke . . ."

4. STOP negging shy girls. This is a very bad thing. When it's time to "neg" some one, you'll recognize it. You'll run into some prissy hot chick in some club one day and she'll have a look that a model might make if forced to wear a bikini in a winter blizzard . . . when she is constipated. (These are the girls you neg.)

5. Stop "hanging out" with her. Turn your sexual motors on now and start building tension. Instead of seeing her 5 hours straight bullshitting or seeing her 5 times a week, bullshitting. See her for 10 minutes and spark it up! See her once a week but spark it up! (Sexual tension is always created and released throughout any form of interaction. If you're just hanging out all the time, it's as if you're faucet is open slightly at a drip. Keep it closed and when you see it, Open that shit up!)

Listen bro I know I sound like an AFC I understand but Im telling you she is not come dittz with good looks.....shes extremely smart! and she is hard to read! every women I meet I can read and understand with in the first hour of meeting her.....no problem but this girl is diffrent!

Iduno perhaps im crazy lol but lets say this girl is the extreme HB and she is the hardest of the hard! how would I go about bringing her wall down and understanding her?

P.S shes not shy at all! she noteven closeto being shy....Im telling your she is not this shy good looking girl....I know I sound like its myfirst day haha but Im telling you ther is always an exception to the rule.

ok, so she's not shy....there's probably another explination

Maybe she is mad at you for "flirting" with those other two girls in your class (weather you were or not, maybe she interpreted it that way). Maybe she's just not that into you and wishes that you'd leave her alone.

Maybe she is a little into you, but she has a boyfriend, and feels abd about it.

We need much more info and probably personal experience to help ya out reading her. Best thing to do....as always...TALK to her like a human being!

I dont talk to her that much....in fact I have no talked to her at all since we hung out other then through text and she was the one who text me....and that was like 3 days ago.

Im thinking perhaps I should text her and see what she is up to this weekend? Iduno she is an odd one! mabey she is only shy around me? because she has a crush? iduno? or mabey she thinks im a player?

I have just kinda ignored her in class because that what she did to me the other day when I tried to talk to her....so why would I put in the effort if she doesnt?

I gave you good advice but you're continuing on with your hocus pocus "I can read you" crap. Drop everything and follow the steps I offered and you'll be in her pants within the weekend. Continue pretending that you're an insecure woman and you'll be here next week chanting the same "Oh my God, she's so smart!! I can't read her at all!!!!" If you were my little bro, I would have smacked you one.

How many talented PUA's can you think of who would even come close to saying something like this? Your own ego is messing you up big time. Look, you can write what ever the hell you want on an anonymous forum but don't lie to yourself. At least don't pretend you know your "shit" while your demonstrating to EVERYBODY here your emotional incompetency for dealing with others. I'm not even sure why you're bothering to write here when it's pretty clear that you're only seeking acceptance for shifting responsibility of failure to the girl. This is like blaming the teacher for an F on a quiz . . . and then whining to your friends about it.

Now hey, let's just say what I wrote is all bullshit. Let's say that I'm 100% wrong. Still, is there anything particularly wrong with reducing your whining and complaining about a girl who is "totally different" and instead putting your energies toward figuring out a different/better strategy?

Right, right . . you've tried ignoring her so this must mean you've tried EVERYTHING. Come on man . . . I'm on your side but I'm not really sure if you're on your side.

Relax ther champ....I have tried what you said and it does not work on this one. You can call me what ever name.....I might not be a pro yet but I know my shit well and Im trying to think out side the box here....not every thing is that black and white.

Not every thing always goes as planned and I can tell you this girl has an odd personality! Im not sure If she has emotional issues or what but there is somthing weird about her....even when we hung out she seem's odd!