Before xmas my friend of 12 years was in the proccess of a divorce to a @rshole, i was getting on so well with her, but it seems i am in the friend Zone, she has had this loser back because he begged her, so she is giving it one more go, i was fuming because she told me it was over, so i have been a shoulder to cry on, she text me after thay got back, but i decided not respond, she text me all day and then phoned me telling me to come to the house or i will come to you'rs, i made her sweat and it worked, she is eating out of my hands at the moment, but he has his feet under the table, under the circumstances i dont think it will last, she is mixed up due to other family issues, so i dont want to screw her mind up, i am playing the Alpha male bit, i have lost 2 stone so i look much better, she is looking at me in a different light, i do love her and i want to wait untill this guy cocks up big time, there seems to be not much love there, but she wants to be sure in her mind that she can get rid of him for good, any advice please will be glad.

Can anyone help with the above article, i am thinking of going non contact with this woman, i think i have been her emotional fix, something she won't get from the ex, so if i blank her out for a few weeks she will probably be in turmoil, or shall i just be a best friend for now untill her ex cocks up, and then go for it, i think the more she gets involved with me she will see me in a different light and we can get closer, has anyone had the experience of this, please reply.

I am making some progress with this woman who as put me in the friend zone, i have gone in alpha male mode, i never lack confidence at any time, i have distance my self from her, changing my patterns to mix her up, i am no longer in friend mode, i do respond to her but only yes or no answers, i can see her response towards me changing, it seems that the game is changing, she is making a point of touching me if she can, she has done it 3 times this week, i touched her as well, i passed her place of work today and went in the shop to do the lottery, and guess who walked in right behind me, this woman who put me in the friend zone, she was right behind me in the queu, so i asked her to come for a drink in a dominant way, but she could not oblige due to a commitment which i knew about, how can i progress with this, my gut feeling is she is seeing me differently than a friend, can anyone give me advice on how to proceed, considering the above situation, i really like this woman and i think she is worth the fight.

Help Help Help, does anyone respond to an SOS on here, i am in the middle of getting out of the friend zone, i am enjoying the challenge, but its like walking through a minefield blind folded, i am trying the alpha male bit, i am confident, i have lost weight and i look good, she is trying to drag me back in the zone, but i am having none of it, she is constantly looking at me, i am peakocking, i answer with yes or no short answers, i negged her today big time, which lowered her a bit, i am mixing it up a bit, some days she see's me others i make myself scarce, she works behind a counter of a shop, so i can see her when i want, i now talk about other women and mention their name, remember i put myself in the batchelor zone for 4 years after i split with my ex, so this woman did not automatically put me in the friend zone, i was not available to any woman, but i have gone back to my old ways, when i was succesful with women, i am nearly 50, but look quite good.

Does anyone know the best way to proceed, i know she likes me, in fact i would say we are nearly soul mates, if i can trigger the sexual attraction game, we would be very close indeed, and i think she knows it, i think my physical shape had something to do with it, but also i have introduced a rough edge to me, a don't care attitude with a cheekyness blunt tone, no more mister nice guy, but i remain chatty and smile while looking into her eyes, no small talk.

please help me along.

oh man all the claims of you being so alpha and such a I don't care bad boy... please. The bottom line is you're too scared to let her know how you feel about her. I see a extreme case of oneitis.

if anybody else responds to this post telling you to up the kino, and C &F they need their ass kicked.

I'm going to give you the real clear picture of your situation
You've known this woman for over decade, never made a move, pretended to just want friendship, and she's married now, yea this isn't going no where nice for you .

read my friend zone post in my signature.
you need a big wake up call

millions of other women out there

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Thanks for your reply, first of all i put myself in the batchelor zone, she did not put me in the friend zone, for 4 years i have enjoyed myself, but i have now resurfaced, i have lost 2 stone,and she told me today you look reaaly good, the game is changing, she has never complimented me before like this, she is also touching me alot lately, i have negged her big time and been very cold to her, today i looked in her eyes and she was very resonsive to me, her body language has changed, sending me open signals,she has dropped loads of hints for me to take her somewhere, there is a big sea change since xmas, she is staring at me all the time, her husband begged her to take him back, she has done it out of pity, it wont last, i can see there is nothing there, but she wants to find this out for herself, yesterday i went to see a Romany gypsie, one of the best in Britain, she done a tarot reading, she is very accurate, as she helped me in the past with my property, she said that her husband is blackmailing her, and using manipulating tactics and he will drag her into the gutter, he is up to is eyeballs in gambling debt and she will get rid of him very soon, the gypsie said that she loves me, but i have to wait for this episode to play out, some people don't believe in this, but i know this old lady gypsy is the best around, and she does not get it wrong, but everything she said yesterday i suspected was happening, it will be a matter of timing,i am going to kiss her when we go out for the rugby and see how she responds, she was practically in my face today when she was talking to me, leaning into me, i can see changes which are encouraging, but this will take some time.

Reo, you are a pessemist, i avoid people in my circle who are pessemists, they drag me down, i am confident and up for this challenge i am the supreme optomist, i hope you don't go around these threads with a negative attitude, you shuld be dishing out positive vibes, just because i have been out of circulation for a while means nothing, i was a big player in my younger days, i am nearly 50 now and this guy commented to me today that i was a good looking bloke, and he is not gay, so if the guys are noticing the women will follow, its taken me 4 months to get into good nick, my training programme is going well, and i have worked on all the other techniques in a players armour, 2 women approched me yeasterday to get chatty with me, i was shockked, but its happening, i am giving off good energy and people are picking up on it, the reason i have not popped the question to my friend is this, i have had to change myself, my style my attitude my clothes my fitness my hair, i am still 2 months off my optimum goal, i have also been working on my target that put me in the friend zone, cracking a nut with a sledge hammer will not work in this case, this will take some weeks to condition her mind to seeing me in a different light, i wished her all the best with the return of her husband, knowing it will be reverse psycology, she was flirting with me today which means the game is changing, i am playing good cop bad cop, and it seems to be working, there will be a defining moment, she has asked me out to the rugby, this is where i will be testing her out , so i have 2 more weeks to work on her, i will be flirting with her more in these 2 weeks, its going to be a carrot and stick job, i said this will be hard to do and i was right, but i have taken measures to improve my chances, the old me as gone in the dust bin, and she is realizing the new me by the way she looks at me, today she could not wait to see me, and she wanted to now where i had been tuesday because i was not available, she is showing different intrest in me now, and i known her along time, believe me she is changing, this could be like a tidal wave if it goes well.