Ok, here's the situation. I work at a retail store that's 99% male and 99% male customers. One of my coworkers is a HB 9 easily. She talks to all the guys, flirt with them and all our customers hit on her.

I don't play by those rules. I act like she's just a normal girl. She's used to guys doing stuff for her, I tell her to go get me things. When she whines, I neg her like hell. When we talk to each other we're usually one on one.

I wanted to find out if the cube game worked.
Me: Have you ever played... The Cube?
Her: No, is that some kind of drinking game?
Me: No.. Why does every game have to be about drinking?
Her: I don't know, I just figured that's why you would ask me.
Me: No, it's a game where you can find out a lot about someone in 5 questions.
Her: Oh, I wanna play!
Me: Not now, wait till our lunch break.

2 hours later on the lunch break she asked me again to do it, so I did.

Her cube = small, first she said an inch, after I told her about the ladder, she said, "oh hm, that wouldn't work, make it 1' x 1'"

Her ladder = 3 feet high which is 3x higher than her cube

Her flowers = hundreds of flowers all of equal height

Her horse = eating... (wtf?)

I told her she has really low self confidence. She replied with she had GREAT self confidence, I tell her people with great self confidence doesn't need to flirt to get what they want. A girl like her, who is graduating from a top college, has so much more potential to use her intellect and knowledge to get something instead of flirting. (she's a psychology major, probably the wrong person to try this on lol)

The ladder she agreed on.

The flowers she half agreed on, cause she has a few very close friends.

The horse, I seriously froze on that one. So since I didn't know how to rationalize an eating horse, I negged her and told her she was weird because no one has ever said that. She said maybe it means she wants to marry a chef.

So we end up small talk for a while during the lunch break and when it's almost over, she keeps trying to tell me how she got a new ipod and that her old one doesn't work and asked me if I wanted her broken iPod incase I wanted to buy a one.

I don't know if that's an IOI or not. The fact that she had to tell this great story about why doesn't need it, makes me feel that she's trying to reassure me she's just doing it to be nice. But on the other hand she could've ask one of her closer coworkers if he wanted it.

The next day, I got the iPod from her, I told her thanks and that I'll buy her coffee next time. She was kinda shocked I said that and went back to talking about how she was going to throw it away anyways but decided that she'd rather help someone out that needed an iPod (10% discount + 10% student discount if u recycle them).

What the hell do I make of this?

This is simple. Your overthinking it. just realise one thing. Your in.

Why?

because out of the other 99% of co-workers and 99% customers. You who neged her and cubed her are the only one that sat down with her and did somthing like the cube test. Are you getting further than the rest of the guys with her? yes is the likely answer, theres your IOI bro

Keep gaming her, seems like you need more DHV's for this. Throw some jealousy in there, slip in some ex-girlfriend stories and friends 'coming over for dinner' etc. Sounds like you got a good one here bro


Best of luck!

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ur right, I'm the only one doing this and she doesn't only talk to me when we're in a group, most of the time we talk when we're alone. I'm gonna take that as a great sign meaning she doesn't think I'm just like any other guy. Next time I see her I'm gonna try to add more DHVs like you said. I hope this all goes well.

Set a goal for yourself now:

Within 3 days, I will take her out to coffee.

or

Within 1 week, I will have her cooking me dinner.

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-Love, Charity, and Esteem-

A thing about the cube. In my little twisted reality, it's never great to just tell a girl things like "you've got bad self confidence" if you're not doing it as an C&F or Neg thing. Wrap it up in some cheesy lines like "sometimes you might feel that noone understands you, like people look at you and think you're not all that great. In those moments, all you want to do is sink inside yourself and dissapear and.. blablabla".. don't use that one btw, it sucked really bad . But you get the idea. Really, the whole thing with the cube is to wrap these things up in nice little packages. We all feel the same kind of emotions anyway, so you can relate it to yourself and try to say things in a more poetic kind of way.

There's a really good book on cold reading by Ian rowland for those interested. It covers all of the dodgy things you ever need for just cold reading a person, and it's the same things that the real psycics use to get those "100% correct readings"

I NEED THAT BOOK. I cant find it anywhere! ANYWHERE!!!!!!!

Ive read about it in so many other books about mind reading and all of them seem to start from that book. I need it!!!

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Ratio theroy...

It's called "The full facts book on cold reading".

http://www.ianrowland.com/
Is his website.

I think that I actually just got it from thepiratebay.org, but I genuinely can't remember. If you really can't get ahold of it, I might be able to send it to you somehow

When doing the cube - or any cold reading - you should follow the concept of "yes=yes" and "no=but".

the-importance-of-yesyes-and-nobut--vt4942.html

This is actually a concept tacted onto the cube by Style. Like, if she disagrees with your interpretation of her "low confidence" you would say "You may be right... BUT..." and then reinterperate the cold reading.

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The perfect 5th

You know what's funny is, I used the "ya, but" when we disagreed. But the biggest mistake I know I was doing was saying "i don't know" a lot. I would always say it if I got stuck in a sentence. That I know is a huge mistake. I really need to slow my talking down and really think about what I want to say before I say it.

Don't listen to that guy. You're not in. But you can be.

Bottom line is you're not delivering the routine properly. "I don't know" is a mega DLV. Say something like "Wow, that's an answer I've never gotten before - you must have a very creative imagination. Let's see if I can figure out what it means..". You just complimented her twice without bringing your value down - in fact you DHV'ed because you're becoming the "value giver" which indicates you have higher value.

Negs are fine by the way - but a neg is not saying "Wow, you're weird". A neg would be more like "Most girls don't give weird answers like that'. It's subtle.. almost by accident. Don't want for a reaction.

Anyway, what I'm reading is that it came off as really awkward. Work on it and make it tight. Try it on friends and family who you CAN fuck it up on.

Also look at this:

small cube - "Wow, the cube represents your ego and in your case it was a small cube which tells me you don't always HAVE to be the center of attention" - especially good if she has an outgoing coloured cube

big cube - "Wow, the cube represents your ego and in your case it was a big cube which tells me that you're a really confident, outgoing person"

medium cube - "Wow, the cube represents your ego and in your case it was a medium-sized cube, which tells me that you're just comfortable being yourself. You're confident and sure of yourself, but you don't have to be the center of attention either"

As for the horse, I would've potentially clarified with her while I was asking her to visualise the horse. As part of my version of this routine, when I ask about things, I say

"Okay, now I want you to visualise a horse... what's it doing? what colour is it? Where is it in the scene?" - If you notice, these are all visual queues. I'm not asking "what does it sound like as it walks?" or "how does it smell?" - these instantly fire off the visual part of the brain.

Now, if she were to say something extremely weird that I'd never heard before, I'd get her to clarify

"My horse is eating"
"Okay, what is it eating? Where did it get food from in the desert?"

etc.

"My horse is eating grass"
"Grass is very lush and full of life giving. Your horse is in the desert, which tells me that your ideal man is the kind of guy who would carpe diem in even the worst conditions"

"My horse is eating a carrot that it found in the sand"
"Your ideal man is very resourceful.. etc"

whatever.. make some shit up. Once you've done this a few times, you'll be able to recite what the cube means while trying to think of how to interpret the horse. You'll also be able to make shit up faster.

Remember - they don't know what all these things mean. Feel free to swap the meanings around - Style does.

on the "yes=yes, no=but" thing, in Annihilation method Style actually uses "yes=and, no=but". I think this works well.

"your cube is small, which normally means you lack self confidence, BUT in your case what I think this means is that you don't have to be the center of attention AND that you're just happy being you"

Anyway, now that you've got her attention, you need to express interest and take her out. There's nothing wrong with expressing interest at the appropriate time - and if you have to ask yourself "is now the right time?" then it probably is. Say something like "Hey, I'd love to get to know you a bit more outside of work, let's go do <this> on Saturday"

Think of something original and fun to do with her. Coffee's boring.

- Dex

now that's some useful info right there. Thanks! Might as well start on a HB9 so I can get really comfortable w/ the lower HBs. I love expressing my ideas and I'm pretty good at visualization but when it comes to, getting all the info from my brain to my mouth is a completely different story.

Ok coffee may be boring but I thought if she asks, why coffee? I'd say,

"I just love relaxing inside a coffee shop, it's bring back memories of when I was a kid running around in the rain, go home dripping wet then quickly strip off all my clothes and slide in to my most comfortable pajamas. Then close my eyes and listen to the rain while sipping on my hot chocolate."

Obviously I've been reading Juggler's material, I came up with this while reading how he always wanted to fly over his neighborhood with an airplane.
Tell me what you guys think.

But your post clarified the cube a lot more for me. And yes it did end up a little awkward but she stuck w/ it and she still talked to me afterwards.
She asked me if I smoked weed a lot and I told her only socially, then she quickly qualified herself to me saying she only smokes weed when she's with friends as well. I shoulda took that as an open invitation and asked her to smoke me out. DAMN! =D

Disclaimer: Drugs are bad.

If you hook up a smoke date, make sure she provides the weed.

- Dex

Funny thing is I just asked her today. She's providing the stuff since she was telling me about how her and her friends like to smoke out on occasion.

Me: So how much does your friend have?

Her: Not much, maybe like two bowls worth

Me: You know what you should do before you head to England? You should smoke me out

Her: Talkin about her stories on liquid THC blah blah

Got interrupted with customers

2 hrs later

Me: Ok it's your last chance, you want to or not?

Her eyes widened and nodded fast in approval

Her:What your #?

Me: blah blah blah, write your number down while your at it.

MY FIRST NUMBER CLOSE WITH A HB9! My coworker who've been flirting with her non stop since he started working w/ me was right next to me when this happened. His heart looked like it smashed in to a million pieces ! He's a great guy but it's suuuch a great feeling not to be him for once in my life. I'm hooked for life.

Congrats dude.

Read up on phone game now

- Dex

that is sweet, only goes to show that this stuff works. Alot of people will say that it is all stuff that they know. I mean alot of these things i did naturally wihtout having any terminology and structure to do it.
Now that i understand some of the theory behind everything, i know when to enforce things, and i have subtle reminders engraved into my head which has made my game 23432 times better (i.e. posture, attitude, make yourself the prize, playful negs)