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 Post subject: GONE FOR A WHILE
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:16 am 
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thanks for all your help fellas. I won't be around for probably a month. My computer is now broken and I have to send the whole fucking thing back to Dell to get the motherboard replaced :( Be easy and Happy Sarging!!
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I've seen so many posts from guys who are caught in the "friend-zone" I thought it was time I decifer the truth's about it. If you don't want to know what I'm about to tell you, you can stop reading now....otherwise, grab a blue-pill and lets get started.

First of all, there really is NO such thing as the "Friend-Zone"....it's an illusion. There is only ATTRACTION or LACKTHEREOF. When a woman feels no attraction for you, she places you in her friend zone. This is really just a waste station for guys she'll never date who are there for one reason, to pump up her self-esteem. What's worse, most guys who end up in the friend zone got there for the very same reason they can't get out. They either:

1. Supplicated

2. Communicated interest too early

3. OR gave away their power with little or no challenge

For lack of better words, they are by all accounts, their own worst enemy. To add to the madness, their plan for getting out of the friend zone, like most AFC's, is to repeat these 3 EXACT SAME mistakes with 10X the might!! Ironically, this is what inevitably seals their fate....and dooms them to a lifetime of platonic friendship with the woman they desire.

Is there a way out? Fortunately, the answer is yes. But just as unfortunately, most guys caught in the Friend Zone can't see past their own "one-itis" long enough to understand what it takes to get out. They're too busy dealing with their own counter-productive thoughts and idea's of wanting to please her and buy her gifts, send her emails, roses, and other useless attempts to "win" her affection. This is NOT the way you build attraction btw.....whether you're in the Friend Zone or not....but ESPECIALLY if you're in the Friend Zone. Newsflash: The reason why you're in the Friend Zone in the first place is because she feels NO attraction for you. So in order to get OUT of the Friend Zone she actually has to FEEL attraction for you. Wow, how's that for a concept! Finally some logic when it comes to women.

So how do you get her to feel attraction for you? Hmmmmm....this is a question I'll pose back at you. How do you get a COMPLETE STRANGER to feel attraction for you? Could it possibly be the same as working normal game? WHOA, we're 2 for 2 today. You're absolutely right Einstein....you work your game like you would ANY other set....the only difference is, now that you've fucked up and put yourself in the Friend Zone, you'll have to work a little harder to get yourself out. Which means you'll be parading other women in front of her, making plans with her, then flaking on her, because you forgot you had plans with the other women in your life that DON'T put you in the Friend Zone. And most importantly, you will STOP doing what you did to put yourself there in the first place. Which means, no more supplicating, no more poems, and no more emails....until she has EARNED it. I know this sounds hard, no longer handing over all your power, money and poems to the woman you desire, hoping you can win her affection this way, but if you quiz the last 100,000 guys who've taken this road, which they repave every 6 weeks for the next 100,000 guys, you'll find you have 2 things in common....1) You're still in the Friend Zone and 2) You're still looking for a way out.

Now that we've debunked the myths of the Friend Zone, let's take a look at some of the positive aspects of being in the Friend Zone, from a PUA standpoint of course, where you can use it to your benefit.

In advanced game, being in the Friend Zone is not always a bad thing, contrary to popular belief. There are times when I will strategically PLACE myself in the Friend Zone purposely, in order to become part of her life....then, work my game from INSIDE the Castle. Of course, this is a set up from the start....this is usually with a woman who has a boyfriend or is in a serious relationship already, and the ONLY way IN is through the Friend Zone. But again, it's just another illusion...as I've mentioned before, there IS no Friend Zone...only Attraction OR Lackthereof. So when she ACCEPTS my request to be just a "friend", knowing she has a boyfriend, it is actually an IOI....she's interested. And placing me in her imaginary Friend Zone is just another way of making her feel less guilty about what she's about to do. Don't get me wrong, like all females, she does have a Friend Zone, and it consists of lots of guys, or prisoners I should say....the only difference is I am the exception. I will appear to LOOK like everyone else, at least from the outside looking in....but there is a MAJOR hidden agenda that separates me from ALL the other inmates serving life terms. I am getting out, THEY are not.

This is one of the rare times being in the Friend Zone is actually a plus, instead of a minus. So what have we learned from all this? Let's sum it up. First, we've learned the Friend Zone is nothing more than an illusion. It doesn't exist. Second, the reason you got there is rediculously the same reason you can't get out. And third, being in the Friend Zone is not always a bad thing. Especially when it's the ONLY way in. Questions?? Comments??


Thx for this man allot of it makes sense but I have to dissagree a little bit. I have had girls in the freiend zone, and they have attraction for me and me to them, and we have even slept togeather on some occasions. I think it really depends on the situation, and it's to general to say that if your a girls friend their is no attraction going on at all because that is not true at all. Allot of great relationships start from two people being friends. But the part I do agree with, is that it it a definite possibility to get out of the friend zone. I don't understand why I read all of these guys say that it's impossible, yes it is not easy sometimes but I have seen it happen many times. I couldn't tell you how to do it other than to make sure she is not comfortable with you anymore and build attraction like crazy like in the quote above.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:55 pm 
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I feel as if I am near to entering the friend zone with a girl at the moment.
I wasn't sure quite what to do about it but figured that I had to rebuild some attraction to get her to see me in a new light.

Thanks for all the golden advice guys.


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ok so i've been involved in a community for two years and i wanted to make a contribution to this one aspect of the game that is usually met with the response "just move on" ... wtf since when did game became a part time thing that was afraid to conquer obstacles..

so let me get right in to it. firstly understand this, if you consistently hang around a girl and its been more than 4-5 months and nothing is happened stop hoping. a lot of people will advise that you go in for the move and hope she reciprocates. what a weak way to approach this. Instead realize the girl trusts you, she probably has built and emotional connection with you and she genuinely likes your qualities you just haven't built a desire for yourself which is more commonly called "attraction" .

ok so read any pua material that highlights the qualities of an attractive man. learn them and learn how they fit in to your lifestyle and personality, don't try to become someone else, but just learn to let the attractive qualities of your personality become dominant.

anyways, continue with the supplicating, supportive behaviour you've grown accustomed to performing with your special lady. the first move you need to make is realize that you're doing this stuff but from now its more intentional. cut out neediness and do not talk about your problems if you are stop immediately.

p.s. even if you've displayed interest (ie i like you, i'm in love with you) this method has a very high probablitity to getting you the desired outcome.

so as i was saying, keep yourself in teh f zone, don't react to anything she tells you meaning keep your jealousy in check. she'll begin to grow comfortable with you so much so that she'll ask you to help her make important decisions, her family will trust you and she'll want to talk with you constantly.

the golden rule in gaming and in life : INDIFFERENCE - care but not that much

once you reach this point you need to suddenly disappear, don't be scared and don't give explanations beyond "i'm busy." always keep your cool and don't get angry or agressive. be indifferent.

the first week you stop talking to her, she'll feel weired and wonder where you are and may even ask you and she'll tell you she misses you. i'll remind you again be indifferent the temptation to call her will be strong you'll feel like you're doing something terrible but don't forget that shes been imprisioning you in a sense it's beneficial for the both of you if you make this happen.

The second week continue to keep commincation at a minimal at this point she'll begin getting upset wiht you and may behave in an angry way. always remember to be aware .. if she didn't care about you she wouldn't get angry. at some point tell her about another girl, make it up if you want and make sure you mention the incredibly chemistry and pull you feel for this girl, even talk about how great your sexual encounters were

the third week cut all communication, at this point her mind will start to go crazy and she will ignore you but the stronger you are the better it will work. let her go crazy until she tries to contact you again. alterantively you can contact her when you feel in control, it can be a month later or even 6-7 weeks at this point you have to learn to work game again, basically do it properly this time because i've given you the magic eraser

and this time make the move early :)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:16 pm 
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The way i've gotten out of the friend zone in the past is through make yourself into the prize. Stop yourself from thinking that she is what your winning and make her want you. Do this by subtle negs and freeze outs. She'll take the negs as just u being friendly for a while but combine that with kino, which should already be there no problem make alot of eye contact as if you would kiss her if you weren't "just friends". When you guys are out at parties, she'll most likely hang all over you, for presents of a guy being there with her so she won't get hit on as much or deliberately. This is where the mini freeze outs happen. Tell her ur gonna mingle a bit, maybe end that statement with a tiny kiss on the cheek, and walk away. Mingle with girls/guys/mixed group whatever's available. She'll begin to feel alone and vulnerable, especially if/when guys come up and start hitting on her and she doesn't have u there to ward them off. It's a tough process and ur gonna have to push-pull alot but you will reap the benefits in the end. Every move must be deliberate and timed, but she will come to u. Good luck and post or send me a message with questions anytime. The force is kinda strong in me and wingman _Alias_ he's also on here.


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Correction lol me and _Alias_ are definitely partners in crime, we wing each other but are both pretty solid.


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this is good, i wish i read this all before this month lol


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Well I never thought about it exactly the way weezy put it but I would agree. That was a very good response!

So here is my two cents on the whole thing. I've been in the friend zone and gotten out a couple of times. Here is how I did it. First of all you just accept that that is where you are. You should truly just not care anymore! Instead of trying too hard and getting mad you embrace it and treat her as your best friend. You then do exactly as other guys have said. You date other women and make sure she sees and knows about them. Especially make sure to let her know about any and all sexual experiences. You might even describe them in detail to make her horny and get her picturing it as if it were you and her (be careful with this). Even if you have none make it up because sexual experience is a great way to raise your value! Put her very low on your priority list without being a jerk to her. Example would be if she calls don't answer and wait a day or two to call her back or if you're going to go do something just cancel on her and apologize by telling her something very important came up. But only do this until you can see that your value is raised, then it's OK to start making her more of a priority. At this point if you've done it right she should be feeling a little jealous and wondering why the hell you don't like her that way anymore. Now you can go on and start trying to build attraction. Honestly this is a very short version I could probably write several pages more about my experience with this. But this should give you an idea.

But with all that said, in my opinion, you should be prepared to just stay in the friend zone. Sometimes it can be very difficult to get a girl to change the way she feels. Ironically though, it's when you don't care anymore that her feelings will change toward you. Anyway hope that helps.


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its a bit complicated but ive been put into the just friends category. im looking to break out and get the attraction going again. ive read bits of what you all said and i agree i will need to distance myself for a while. but how do i go about explaining or responding to why ive been distancing myself? thanks for any help or advance to how to break out of the just friends category :)


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Stealthhawk you NEED to read this thread in detail. ALL OF IT. You don't explain why you are distancing yourself. An alpha male doesn't explaine why they do what they do they just do it. This is part of the reason a female is attracted. Having the confidence and conviction to do whatever you want, whenever, and with whomever and not needing aproval from anyone.


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it may not be alpha but im pretty sure they may come a time in which i need to give a reason. only a certain amount of dodging/ side stepping/ ignoring can be done before it looks like you dont even have a reason.

i was thinking of some how making her jealous... maybe just telling her ive been hanging with other people or something i dont knwo thats why im asking...


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A simple "I'm Busy" or "I've been busy" should do. After that you can make a suggestion about a time to get together.


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I have had very little if much luck at all getting out of the Friend Zone before being sacked, and in all honestly I've closed the deal on more than one girl who flat out told me she doesn't like me.

So the moral of the story is she will be much more likely to sleep with you if she flat out tells you that she doesn't like you very much than if she LJBFs you.

Not saying it can't be done, as I am dealing with the same issue right now trying to come up with my "hail mary" pass before I give up and take the sack.


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Great topic, useful informations here.
I myself gonna try to exit "Friend Zone" with an ex-girlfriend. We've been together about 6 years ago, we broke-up because of the distance between us (different cityes, about 500 km away). And because of that distance the only thing remaining between us was the friendship. The friendship tough, is at the border between buddy and lover.

We kept connected all those years, we talk through IM, phonecall, e-mails etc (in more than 90% of the cases she calls me, otherwise I am kind of ignoring her) about 1-2 times/month, sometimes rarely, sometimes often. We talk about everything, including our sexual life (in extreme detail). I even got invited twice to her town and to stay over night at her's place (and she was serious about that even tough she had a boyfriend and I am married).

I once had a dream with her. I have told her and she asked me what the dream was about. I teased her an entire day without telling her what was about. She allmost got crazy about that. At the end, when I told her what happend in that dream (we had sex in that dream) she laughed and got a bit embarrased.

Next week I'll have the opportunity to go to her town and i'll stay a day or two and we allready agreed to meet. My goal is to bang her.

Any sugestions on how to handle this date? More important, what should I NOT DO to screw things up...

Thanks


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My only advice would be to not be married LMFAO...

Sounds like you could bring much more drama into your life than you might like to have for a lay.


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