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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:27 pm 
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After speaking a short while with one of swedens top PUAs on msn, I was told "I simply didn't have what it takes to become a PUA."
I looked around, at my friend, a desperate guy who hade been around the community for 6 months and was getting distanced from all his friends by picking on every single girl he saw, whether she was busy or not. He was going to be a good PUA, apparently.

Okay. By saying this, the whole game community seems to have something wrong with itself. It's filled with robots, yeah, i got that covered in the first game book, but I also started to analyse the pick up artists, and i made a discovery when I was using it's methods on a girl.

1. I wasn't the slightest interested in her. Yeah, she was hot, but as she was giving me more and more IOI's seeming fascinated by me, I wasn't the slightest fascinated by her. So I wondered why I was sticking to her, still talking to her, disregarding the fact that I found her boring, laughing at everything I said and seeming really interested by where I worked and who I was, I realised the only reason to stay was that I got off by controlling her, getting attention from her, I got off from getting approved by her. I could propably even have got a kiss close, but I decided to leave without even taking her number.

2. Case 2; I met a girl, and I really didn't want to use the game techniques on her, and I got interested. I was getting gamed by her. But the fact was, I was using game techniques, I used kino pretty much immiditaly after talking to her, got really close to her, and we slept together the same night. This time, I wasn't the one controlling her, I was letting her pull me, while letting myself be pulled by her.

Case 3 would be the AFC case, where you're left crying over a girl who doesen't like you back. That happened a few years back, I admit I am not perfect.
This is what i've been thinking:
A real PUA should not control the girl, and thriving of doing this is a sign of low self-esteem in my opinion. When you are gaming a girl, you should be letting her pull you, you should be letting her show you her personality and do some of the work too sometimes, not only xhowing her you are interesting, you also need her to show you she's interesting. That would be one reason why I simply can't find myself interested in any of the girls i do the game methods on, I almost always find myself getting more interested in their friends or etc instead.

Any thoughts or input on this? Is it better to use the woman as a tool, is it important to be interested in the girl you kiss, and am I completely wrong?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:48 pm 
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Hi Kandi, I can see you're in the need of a good kick in the rear to push you forward.
First of all, Fuck whatever this stupid swede told you, one of the very basics of NLP is "if one person can do it, anyone can". I take it you read the game, Neil Strauss admitted that he sucked in the beginning, but he never gave up, he read so many books, practiced so many routines and moves until he came up with his own formula of picking up girls.

Second, Yes some PUAs turn in to robots, but commonly those who only use other PUAs material and can't be imaginative enough to create their own game. This is all for fun, use your imagination, try a new routine everyday until you find your style.

Third, remember the most basic rule of SS "always leave them better than you found them" I approach most HBs I find, but if I don't think they are interesting or fun, I wish them a good day and I leave, I can't game anyone I don't want to be with. I have high standards and thats what got me in to being a PUA so that I can choose the women I want, I don't want a women just because she's hot, there is more to it.

Fourth, simply reading the game and go out and try stuff from the book is not enough, too many PUAs fail this way, study all material you can find, read books, interact with other successful PUAs (but fuck this stupid swede) and develop your own way of being a good pick up artist. I hope you find this helpful, feel free to send me a message if you want more help. Good luck!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:09 pm 
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Hi Kandi, I can see you're in the need of a good kick in the rear to push you forward.
First of all, Fuck whatever this stupid swede told you, one of the very basics of NLP is "if one person can do it, anyone can". I take it you read the game, Neil Strauss admitted that he sucked in the beginning, but he never gave up, he read so many books, practiced so many routines and moves until he came up with his own formula of picking up girls.

Second, Yes some PUAs turn in to robots, but commonly those who only use other PUAs material and can't be imaginative enough to create their own game. This is all for fun, use your imagination, try a new routine everyday until you find your style.

Third, remember the most basic rule of SS "always leave them better than you found them" I approach most HBs I find, but if I don't think they are interesting or fun, I wish them a good day and I leave, I can't game anyone I don't want to be with. I have high standards and thats what got me in to being a PUA so that I can choose the women I want, I don't want a women just because she's hot, there is more to it.

Fourth, simply reading the game and go out and try stuff from the book is not enough, too many PUAs fail this way, study all material you can find, read books, interact with other successful PUAs (but fuck this stupid swede) and develop your own way of being a good pick up artist. I hope you find this helpful, feel free to send me a message if you want more help. Good luck!
How do I become a good PUA if I've already am in a good relationship? I'm not going to leave her, or cheat on her.

Also, I'm not a sarger, I live in a town where sarging is close to impossible. My game has been restricted to the organisations I am in, and they have been very successfull, though. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:29 am 
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You can practice your PUA skills even if you are faithful in a relationship, you can still do your routines and make number closes, no one said you ever have to call the numbers you get. There is a big trap in this though, as your skills become better you'll notice that you can get pretty much any girl you want, and you might wanna try your skills further and all of sudden you wake up naked next to a HB finding yourself to be a cheater, this happened to me when I was in a LTR (long term relationship), so just watch out.

As it comes to living in a boring town where nothing happens. Well you'd be suprised of all the places you can meet women, I can also recommend you bringing a friend or two and check into a motel in some larger neighbouring town and do nothing but sarge for a weekend, tell your girlfriend you're goin to some sports event or concert lol (you still don't have to cheat) Sarging trips are among the best vacation a bunch of guys can do!

Another thing you can do passively to become a better PUA is to read, a good PUA should not be afraid of reading a lot, it really helps.

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