I read it quite a lot, don't combine drinking with gaming, well at least keep it to a decent amount.

All well and such, but here's the thing:

Here in Holland amongst students it is, in a way, socially unacceptable to not be drinking, by guys as well as girls, and even when drinking it is also unacceptable to be drinking anything other then beer as a guy. So I have a hard time being sober while I'm out gaming at night.

So I think this leaves me with a few options:
1. I'll try to make the best of drunk sarging
2. I find some new guys who also don't drink, to go out sarge so I avoid peer pressure and use one of the only two acceptable excuses to the girls:
- I still have to drive (implies I have a car and I'm responsible)
- I will die, cuz Im on meds or whatever (implies being sick)

Any of you have any thoughts?

Dude, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone.

Just go out and have fun, drink w/ moderation and meet people.

Don't tell girls that you're being responsible and whatnot (kind of a turn off during a conversation) and definitely don't mention any medication you may or may not be taking - it's none of their concern and that topic has no business in a bar.

Keep a beer in your hand (even though I prefer apple martinis ) and no one will ask questions.

Funny note from Mystery: "In a worst case senario, fake being drunk, then at least you have plausible deniability"

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However awesome it would be to be follow such advise, it's just not that easy.

Not drinking leads to a constant mockery, well not constant but at least every 15 minutes there's a new round of beer.

I didn't mean actually saying I'm responsible and whatnot, but that's what such an excuse might convey. Although it probably doesn't counter the DLV from not drinking..

EDIT: re-read my post and yours, you know what, you're goddamn right,
this was a stupid topic.

drink but just dont be stupid....have a couple beer or drinks. Set a rule that if you drink more then 4 drinks then you will drink water for the rest of the night....I have been drunk and picked up but i would agree that being sober is much much better! you have a better idea of what you are doing, and you also can think better.

I can't drink when I'm gaming, at least I can't drink myself drunk. I start talking way too much shit if I'm drunk. My solution is that I order fresh lime and soda at the bar, it tastes great and it looks like a proper drink.

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Take this advice from PM88ENG on board. When i first started pick up i stopped drinking. People at first kept asking me why i stopped and it was annoying. After a while they just got use to me not drinking. The thing is people find it hard to understand how you can have a good time sober.

Here is a bit of science (well sort of). When you drink it lowers our inhibitions which releases chemicals making us feel good. You can get into the same state by having fun and not caring (let go of all inhibitions). The same chemicals are released. I feel drunk at the end of every night. It does wear off quickly if you stop having fun but why would you. Plus benefit of no hangover.

If you are worried what other people think then your crazy. Who cares what they think, they are only jealous because they need to spend £40 to have a good night where you spend £5 on club entry. Also if you care so much what they think then your game will suffer. You are more likely to care about outcomes.

Don't care what anyone thinks of you it is their problem not yours. Surely they have better things to talk about than you not drinking. If not then they really are quite sad. Just a thought to consider.

There are no rules . . . period.

People who can't take a drink came up with the "Don't drink while gaming" rule.

I'm typically the last guy standing. I've asked my friends (while sober), "do I act different when I'm drunk?" . . . and it's always, "Well . . .I guess you tell more jokes . . . " or "Not really . . ."

The goal is vagina. If you can score while drinking 2 drinks then drink 2. If you can score while you're blasted after 10 then drink 10. Let the drunk guys make up their own rules for drunk sarging or the needle dicks who act like idiots after 1 drink make up their own rules about drinking.

Be your own man.

Over the course of a 22:00 tot 05:00 night I can take 20~30 beers, depending on my state and things like dinner and such, I'm slightly tipsy to very tipsy. It also varies how bright my thinking is..

Mostly when I drink, I get more and more talkative. But it would probably be a good idea to drink a bit less, as drinking definitely clouds my judgement on how drunk the chick I'm gaming is and how drunk I'm actually acting.

I guess I'll just try out various amount of beer over the next few nights, asking feedback of one of my friends, preferably one who can think straight or stay sober.

Drinking definitely kicks up my my cocky funny game

I have recently converted my friends to not drinking when we go out to meet women, then on other nights we go out and get drunk.

To be honest sarging drunk is hilarious, you will put your foot in your mouth forget words and say inappropriate things but I see that as an advantage. If you can pickup women you will destroy when sober, literally you suddenly become the smartest wittiest guy in the club lol.

So yar split the nights, go out tipsy/sober some nights and then go out drunk other nights.

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Being sober you should be able to efficiently amog (thinking faster and funnier) those who are mocking you for not drinking!

Have one/two to loosen up / bond with your friends. Then just stop or switch to water etc.

Ok guys, my two cents.

I used to be a bit of a party animal, enjoyed the drink, used it as my crutch, built up some dutch courage. It got me into plenty of trouble I can tell you, but I'll leave all those stories for another day.

However, since learning the game and enhancing my skills I've actually come to the point of not drinking. I actually don't drink at all now. I'm teetotal as they say, gone cold turkey. Why?

It messed up my game, I'd be saying things that I didn't want to say, ruining opportunities with girls that night or the day after due to a hangover and oh boy were they were the worst.

I know that in the North America and Europe, going out with your friends and sitting there with a coke can make you seem a bit odd. But be confident and comfortable with yourself, your friends will soon see you for what you are, you're not a trend follower, you're a trend setter. Wear your rings on your thumbs and declare your worship for Poseidon, God of the Sea. I set my own trends! lol.

In fact, I just order a shandy, looks like a beer and they'll all think I'm joining in, but not getting drunk. You could also try a non-alcoholic beer, but the ones I've tried are gross to say the least.

I really can't see the problem, you should know your own limits and it should be easy enough to stick to them, if you're within your limit you should be able to hold a coherent converstation.

The only time drink becomes a problem is if you're completely trollied and unless you've been spiked you actually have to attempt to become that drunk.

If the problem is that every night is "let's go out and get slaughtered night" then just learn to either a) handle your drink or b) pace yourself so that they're all rat-arsed before you and nobody is any the wiser that you're not slurring your words.

Oh there's another option.

You can just tell the truth "I don't want to get completely off my twat because I want to be able to pull HOT girls and not worry about waking up tomorrow next to munter".