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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:21 am 
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So I had all systems go for my palm reading lesson with a new HB, and I picked the location and time because I remember reading somewhere that you are in charge. So I picked a park and a location she was familiar with and got there five minutes late, but she knew because we had been texting all day (some of which I found in the Mid-Game section I think). We looked for each other for about 10 minutes and instead of making me seem like the dummy who got lost I say this as I answer the phone:

me: Hey Ms. Flake.
HB: How am I a flake?
me: I don't see you here
HB: Where are you?
me: Right in front of X-location.
HB: I see you!!!


The day went well. I told her a DHV story about my best friend who I saved from an asshole at school freshman year (true story) and we bought some grub from a local bakery. We found a spot in the park and I started to teach her how to read palms. I need to throw the kino into high gear so I laid down on the grass and waited to see if she'd follow. She did after getting tired of bending her hand towards me and was laying next me. I read her palm at least three times it seemed like she was really into it, but I choked and could not kiss her or even throw in any overt kino. We laid there for a while and then my game just started to slip away. By the end i was back to an old trick i use to used on dates as an AFC

"You're a big question mark to me,"

HB: "So are you,"

Me: "Tell me something then, anything about yourself."

after a little pause
HB: "This feels like an interview and I hate interviews,"

Me: "Then say one thing you wanna know about me?"

HB: That's like the same thing, but with me on the other side of the interview.

I ended up getting minimal information out of her. Since I was off my game and somehow back in AFC world, I told her a 2 minute biography which she did seem interested in, but I know biography = LJBF 99% of the time.

I started to notice she seemed uncomfortable so I played the cube game and and said it was connected to her personality through blah blah blah. She laughed and agreed. I pulled the plug when she wouldn't face me as we sat in the grass anymore. As we took out separate ways home I tried one last time with the MM trust test. She messed up the first time, not knowing what to do, and the second time I helped her she still messed up. I figured in order to salvage any chance with this girl I would leave her wanting more, even if it was a minuscule amount.

me: "You gotta learn to trust me," i said.

hb: "It's takes me a while to trust people,"

me: "maybe we should do this again then?"

i give her a hug, but she gives the "Hey bro" one armed hug.

HB:"yea, ok. Bye"



What exactly am I asking?
First, i realize that there is a small percentage of women who have death-star like shells to protect themselves from becoming attached. Does this sound like one of those cases?

Second, I fell of my game, and I completely realize this. I really want to develop my own style and routines which work with me. I understand that I have practice with what is presented on this site as much as possible in the field. What would help me see the potential pitfalls in my game and how do i fix them?

Finally, Should I follow up with this girl at all? My gut tells me go worry about the next date I have on monday with another one, but my mind is telling me to attempt more game on the first one while giving "Monday" a stock routine.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:27 am 
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I think you missed the biggest mistake you made that your date even told you about. Which was that you went into interview mode. That's the worse thing you can do. As there is nothing fun about it. When you went into interview mode her interest in you dropped. For the next date I would work on kino and build up her attraction to you, and not worry about knowing who she is until her interest is higher.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:11 am 
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Alright, I can see how that was the game dropper.
Thanks man.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:23 am 
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Exactly, make assumptions instead of asking questions, instead of asking what are you into? say something like "I think you're the kinda girl who likes x" say whatever, like take a qualified guess in what she's into.
Also Ross Jefferies frequently talks about the power of using quotes in conversations, if you keep talking like "I think", "I like" she will think you are self centered, instead use quotes like "my friend said" or "my teacher thinks"it works great!

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