I'm in a really rough spot at the moment, the economy is fucked I can't find a job, I have no ride, and not much cash, is it still possible to game chicks, should I lie to them in the meantime?

you dont have any necesity to cover your reality, i think that just using what you know about the game everything would be allright, if the girl is with you for the money or the car, you are not in to her.

not at all man

keep up the sargin

never open convo about what you dont like
yet those things are not important

keep it cool
confident
and funny!

you mean that the car and shit ain't really important if i know what im doing? But won't the chick think your a loser if you aint got that shit? I dont understand what you mean about not opening the conversation, thanks for the input though i appreciate it, you guys made me feel better.

le tme see if i can explain myself better, i mena that yeah the us economy ( and the economy in almost all the world) is in a bad situation, but if you know it, and almot everyone know it, the girl should know it to, and undertand, and anyways if she think you are aloser for dont have a car, or a lot of money, she is not looking for love, she is looking for a provider that pay for everything she needs or want.

i droped out of college i have no car job or my own house i live with my friends mom and i still game.

yeah that's true, she should understand about the economy and your right to about the provider thing, I hate women who think like that. Thanks a lot man your absolutely right, now I just need to work on approaching random girls, I'm pretty good at just talking and being funny it's the approach I suck at.

you are in the position to be an amazing pickup artist. you have really nothing to lose. too many of us have these huge egos in which our identities are attached to material possessions. we use these crutches to superficially bolster our game.

you on the other hand have no huge material possessions that will give you a false sense of who you are. the other added benefit (and I mean this as nicely as possible) life sucks for you. rejection should be like being pinched after having your wisdom teeth pulled.

Ive never been one to be known for my mellow decision making ability. At one point in my life i was bored with Society, but not bored with the people. I decided i no longer wanted to live in the normal sense. I left my apartment, Sold my car and donated the majority of my furniture and cloths. Picked up a new mountain bike, a tent and some camping gear.

Then i went camping...for months, i lived in a large wooded patch in the middle of a city. I made it my home, not for any other reason but because i wanted too. I had no home, no car and lived in a tent...

Guess what? I still met women, i even brought them "home" to my tent, i would have camp fires and marshmellow roasts and what i would label eventually "woods parties"

it was safe to say, many of my male friends would playfully dislike me because of my adventurous spirit and the fact i would develop more relationships, with much less then nothing, then they would.

point is my friend, its how you use your hand of cards, not what cards are in your hand...

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what a great story DivineChaos!!. We are more than material possesions and a job.

Hey guys, I understand your point of view (specially to DivineChaos) but I think sometimes it's just impossible to sarge.

I will tell you why (My own situation)
So, as you can see, my situation is critical. I'm not living in a park or something, but I don't even have money to invite a girl to watch a movie!!

Do you still guys think that is possible to sarge with no car and no money, or a little further (In my situation)?

When i started in the scene i was a guy with no self confidence and no self worth. The world had torn me down telling me i was nothing all long. I viewed things still how i thought women wanted me to treat them, much like your doing now.

I was reading and putting to use the techniques i learned with little results. But i was gaining confidence. The old saying you cant love others untill you love yourself.

I started my journey in the wrong area. No matter the techniques i knew, if i was not confident and loving of myself, they would never work. So...

I spent more time reworking my limited beliefs, gaining confidence as a person and not letting the world valadate me, but making the world valadate itself to me. Then all the BS i thought about women....i have to have money, i cant live with my parents, i have to have a car...all of this ment nothing to me.

Thats when my game jumped up, women approach me, i dont lie to them about my situation, they dont care...because they enjoy...me as a person, because i enjoy me as a person.

work on yourself, change the way you think...then use the techniques, dont let your situation define you, define your situation.

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"The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually fearing you will make one."

Really nice speech D.C.. You really gave me courage to improve my game.

However mate, I've been using all my knowledges with success. I used my own opener (Which fits my personality very well, and I can continue to a convo easily). Most of the girls actually reply to my opener. 3 girls told me ''You're so cool'' or ''You're so funny'' while talking with them through IM. I even #closed a few of them. But mate, How will I follow my game now, since I stated I don't even have money to go watch a movie!! I don't even have money to take the bus!!

So, as you can see, even when I can interact very well with girls online, and even when they happen to understand/agree my life style, there's this problem of the money, mate. I mean, even when you were bored with society, you still had money to hang out, or have a date with a girl (Which is my biggest problem now).

I won't make the girl pay for the date, right?

let me ask you this, normally for a girl, the dates they have been exposed to are such things that require money. Movies, Dinners, clubs + drinks!

Now is the time to shine, because your not like all them other guys! Parks, free exhibits, Monuments, Gardens, Museams (spelling?), concerts at the local bar/pubs. Simply think outside the box. I made it a habit, to go to bars and clubs with no money. I could still get both women and men to buy me drinks.

Ladies nights, drinks are free for them. They usually have no issue getting you a free drink, just dont go asking.

become part of the bigger groups, the ones likly to buy rounds of shots. When your accepted as one of them, they will get you a shot as well.

These are just some ideas, i can throw ideas out all day of free dates, things to do outside the box that cost no money. or how to go to places and not spend a dime. If you can show a girl how much fun it is to be around you, when your doing something that is viewed as "less exciting" they start to wonder how much fun you would be doing things that are viewed as exciting.

as for transportation, Start finding hidden gems around you, that you can walk to, that you can turn into an adventure. think outside the box, dont think about things girls tend to like to do, think of things you would have fun doing or you can make become fun by you being there.

Buy a bicycle, countless times ive shown up places riding a bike, i started out with a mountain bike, then eventually also bought a nice crusing bike. You may feel stupid or wierd at first, but it will help your confidence, once you have that confidence and dont care how people view you, women will pick up on that.

remember, this process is not about meeting women, this processes is about self discovery, making you a better person, a better man, that has the confidence not only with women, but with life, to know that confidence can carry you anywhere, and you can do anything. You develop a self worth that is unmatched and a belief in yourself that can take on any challenge life throws your way.

I have faith in you, and i believe you can overcome the challenges your faced with. If you like, i can help find things around your area to take the women you meet.

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LOL, I have cash, will soon have cool car, have my own business, yet haven't really had much success gaming girls, so it's all good man lol