While going through some products I stumbled across a book called 'The Rules'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules This is an extremely popular guide written in the mid 90's for women on how they should act to manipulate their man of choice. Basic things like 'don't put out' and 'don't pay for dates' and 'be mysterious' are underlying principles, as well as more devilish ways to infuriate us (and supposedly make us want you more). Please don't move this thread, this isn't a book report.

As I was looking through this I was thinking "Damn! This is EXACTLY all of the stuff my first girlfriend was pulling on me!" and I also remembered other girls using identical strategies. I see most of the important 35 'rules' stressed in the book, repeated in women's magazines such as Cosmo. The point is that if a girl wants you as her serious boyfriend, then she has a plethora of tactics at her disposal to manipulate you and keep you chasing her. There is often an ulterior motive and fine print subtext that the average guy misses, and consequently falls right where the woman wants him.

I think you guys out there should take at least 20 minutes and educate yourself on these dirty little secrets of theirs, so #1 you can recognize and call them out on it, and #2 have a better understanding of their internal thought processes so you can flip the script on her (also can be used as ammo if a girl calls you out as a PUA). And you few, proud, females possibly reading this should spill the beans and let us in for the good of mankind.

We are amateur gamers compared to females, they've been at it for much longer and are much better at it. So really, learn their game so you can take meaning and make sense of the inexplicable actions they do which frustrate us so.

ps. Take this all with a grain of salt, this isn't a war or anything. I still love women, even if they try to screw with my head

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There are no failures, only feedback.

Face it, mate. If you're like the rest of us, most days you love women BECAUSE they try to screw with your head.

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Some vices miss what is right because they are deficient, others because they are excessive, in feelings or in actions, while virtue finds and chooses the mean.
Aristotle, Ethica Nichomachea

David D highly recommends this book even though its intended for women... I still haven't checked it out myself.

pretty fucking stupid.

they say all that shit. they dont mean it.

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The only way you can be manipulated is if you don't stand up for yourself... or if you're trying to manipulate them yourself. None of that stuff works on a man who doesn't take shit and will walk away. Remember, if you've just met a woman and she tries this shit, what's stopping you? You don't even know her, and if she's gonna play head games all the time then you don't want to spend time with her.

Don't hate the player
Play the game
Play the player

Applies to both genders

All is fair in love and war

A girl told me about a few of these.

Here's one I found interesting.

"He texts you, don't text him back until he asks why you don't text back."

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Tyler Durden: F off with your sofa units and strine green stripe patterns, I say never be complete, I say stop being perfect, I say let... lets evolve, let the chips fall where they may.

They should of titled it, "How to get your man to ditch you in 10 days"

Seriously, it's all terrible advice. PU works both ways, but this isn't pickup.

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"A man is but the product of his thoughts, what he thinks, he becomes." - Mohandas Gandhi

I have to agree with this guy. The only value in the book is that it conveys the idea of not being too needy.As for the actual rules, I think that they will only work on a certain type of personality...

Isn't it ironic that both the authors are divorced.. ??

Actually, when I first read Mystery's ebook, it reminded me a lot of the Rules. Both admonish the reader that he/she is not getting laid/married because he/she is being too NICE to the opposite sex. Unattractive, poor, fat? Not a problem, say MM and the Rules. Just make things difficult enough for the opposite sex, and they'll be begging you for sex/marriage.

Both have some truth to them. Yes, people want what they can't have. But unless you're gorgeous or wealthy, if you take this too far, and you'll lose the pussy/boyfriend to someone else.

In fact, check out some of the Rules boards out there. You'll find women saying the EXACT same things about PUA that you are saying about the Rules: "They don't really mean it, and they change when they meet a Rules girl." etc

this shit makes me sick, i'd love to call a bitch out on this shit,

I've read it, but the problem I see with it is it's about getting a guy to marry you. If girls do this with every guy they'll most likely drive away several who would've been good life mates. It can also be a problem for them in the long run, as they will more than likely get a man who will be a stable if boring provider.

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Devil's Advocate

"You're only as young as the women you feel."
"I am the Master of my unspoken words, and the Slave to those words that should have remained unsaid."