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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:59 pm 
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Hay guys... I have recently been showing interest in a girl. She has a Boyfriend and has been on and off with him for 3 years!! We have mutual freinds and one of them asked her if she wanted my number. Her reply to this was " HELL YEH, I'LL TAKE HIS NUMBER". I met her the other night and she was with some girls i dont know. They tured out to be proper cockblockers!! The girl i am interested in wanted to come to the club with me but her cb friend was against it. She sent me a txt !hr later sayin that she went home as her friend was going to tell her boyfriend if she goes to meet me on her own. I obviously can see she is interested but dont know how to play it from here!

Can someone help me out please?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:12 pm 
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Dude, first off, relax.
Ive got just the right thing for the situation.
Its called the Boyfriend Destroyer, and it is one of the "forbidden patterns".

It definetally isn't one of my inventions but it work's like fucking magic and i field tested that shit a few times.
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Boyfriend destroying in the past has been clumsy at worst and ineffective at best. Let’s explore some new ways of doing this – making the boyfriend unappealing in her mind rather than ‘destroying’ him.
Let’s begin by saying that if she was SO happy with her boyfriend, she wouldn’t really be giving you the time of day, would she? Always keep this in mind. You will need to get across that you are her REAL type of man without explicitly stating this. Here are the things to key in on when trying to destroy a boyfriend.
1. Failure to commit
2. Jealousy-inspired arguments
3. Physically or mentally abusive behavior
4. Not assertive enough in bed
5. Being too predictable
6. Wanting to do off-the-wall things in bed that the girl isn’t into
7. Acting too needy
8. Acting withdrawn
OK. Those are some of the most common complaints from women in regards to their relationships with men. Now, you need to find out from her which one(s) her boyfriend is displaying and the boyfriend look inferior because of it. Here are some examples:

Failure to Commit:
“That reminds me of my friend Jim. He drives a truck for a living, but he met a girl from a wealthy family and started dating her. She was
really into him, but in his mind he just didn’t deserve a girl of that status. It was like, inside his mind, he was always worried that she would leave him because she could have any man she wanted.

Jealousy-inspired Arguments:
“Try not to be mad at him, OK? It’s just that you are probably the highest-caliber woman that he’s ever been with, and he knows that if you ever left him he would never find someone of your quality again. He’s just worried, that’s all.”

Abusive Behavior:
"This happens all the time when a guy is with a woman that he can’t handle emotionally. He just can’t handle all the things that are going on inside his head, so he acts out in this manner. He’s probably never been in demand with women, so he desperately wants you to stay with him.”

Not Assertive in Bed:
“I’m sure he wants to please you sexually, but he can’t because he’s insecure. It’s like the guy with a really hot girlfriend who ends up cheating on her with some fat girl that is not nearly as attractive, since she makes him feel better about himself. It sounds like he has a case of unworthiness, but you should bear with it for awhile, I’m sure he’ll do better soon.”

Being too Predictable/Boring:
“You two have become so close that you are more like a sister to him now than a lover. He’s really secure with you so he doesn’t feel the need to do anything special any more. 9
Don’t you see how most marriages evolve? This is the way. Now, with me, I’d rather keep the spice in a relationship, but I understand that it’s hard and most people don’t have the time for that sort of thing.

Off-the-Wall Sex:
“Since he’s never had someone like you, he feels the need to objectify you. He can’t open up to you because he risks the possibility of being hurt, so he turns sex into some sort of perverse game.”

Acting too Needy:
“Well, you should understand that this guy has nothing else going for him, you’re the only thing in his life that makes him feel important. Without you his life would be meaningless, so you can’t really blame him, he needs you.”

Acting Withdrawn:
“He’s just afraid to open up to you since he feels he doesn’t deserve someone like you. If he opened himself up you may not like what he reveals. Now, with me, I believe that communication is incredibly important in any relationship, but I can understand where he is coming from. He really doesn’t want to lose you.”
Credit to the great Jack Ellis writer of the forbidden patterns

There have been another thread reguardind the situation with advices from other PUA's from the forum, but this system is my advice.
Very recomanded, i hope you like and this one works for you aswell.
Some will not agree about the legitemacy of it but it WORKS!

hope i assisted. 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:43 pm 
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This is excellent info! I wouldn't necessarily call them "forbidden" patterns though.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:20 pm 
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Boyfriend means nothing. If she is open to your game, you can put him out for good.

Try negs on her relating to him. What I mean is, get her to mention a few things she doesn't like about him, and then neg her for it...

Examples:

HB: I love him, but he just doesn't have any ambition, doesnt work hard enough, etc.
You: I really don't think you d look good in a trailer park. You might want to think about that!

HB: He gets drunk and yells, fights with me, blah blah
You: Hey, whatever you're into. (make a sympathetic face)

HB: He's not adventurous, doesn't travel, etc.
You: Sorry to hear that, I'm very free-spirited and could never live like that, I don't know how you do it!

The idea is you are putting the thoughts in her head that = he's out and you are in!

Once you destroy, never bring him up again....its now all about you!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:17 am 
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You can find some more elaborated boyfriend destroyers in "Speed seduction" book, writed by Ross Jeffries, but its very complicated.

I hate boyfriends! I was hookin a girl last year in my university, a tall blonde polish/german girl (in Southern Brazil we can find that kind of women) and she had a boyfriend. No news... except for the fact that I sleeped 3 times with her, in her bed!! And we don't have sex, can you imagine that? I tried all, almost all, and the only thing I got is put my hands in her boobs and ass, and one time in her pussy. No kisses also!

I thought I failed cause I didnt show enough appreciation, this is whats probably laccks for her, she probably prefers me than her stupid boyfriend, but I not exposed myself as a future match, just as a guy who just wants to fuck her. The big MISTAKE. Life's that: learn with mistakes.

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Or you can not be a dirtbag and go for another girl. Just a thought.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:47 pm 
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I have thought about this long and hard. And it comes down to this, if you are going to be a better boyfriend destroy him, else don't ruin someones love and leave them. Move on. Until, she breaks up or something. That's my moral opinion.


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There's a lot of AFC talk going on here guys. Lets be real. If she was really into the guy she is with, you wouldn't of gotten on her radar. She s gonna ditch him for another dude, why not you instead of some chump?

Work that game!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:53 am 
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The oldest discussion on the forum. To destroy or not to destroy BFs...

It is all up to you.

I let a few factors decide:

- Am I gonna improve her life by stealing her?
- Am I gonna stick around (real feelings and not just amusement).
- Do I like the guy?
- Is it worth it?

Well, leave her better than you found her. If this is the girl of your dreams and a partner for life then it has gone beyond "just" pickup! It has become something more.

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Or you can not be a dirtbag and go for another girl. Just a thought.
Obviously, if she's receptive to his game, then she isn't truly into her boyfriend. He'd be doing her a favor getting them to break up.

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I believe the BF is not the problem..
It's her CB friend you need to outmaneuver.

I don't know the situation, but I can guess that the CB-friend is probably a good friend of her BF, and thinks they shouldn't break up or something.
Perhaps the CB has a crush on the BF, I don't know.

Anyway, it shouldn't be her that decides whether or not your HB is "allowed" to go to clubs with you.


You may consider turning the HB into a pivot, keeping her as "Just Friends" since she has a Boyfriend, and making sure that the CB-friend trusts you not to do shit with her, since she obviously has the intention of ruining the HB's chances with you....

So, you can take them both out, play a little to the CB, so she realizes you are a good guy she can like, with no intention of luring the HB into unfaithfulness...


Then bring them both to clubs, double pivot, one on each arm.
that's good Value, and you'll probably get extra attention from the other HBs in the club this way ;)



btw. Boyfriend Destroyers is not "Forbidden" techniques.
as far as I know there's only 4 official "Forbidden" patterns, (NLP), and a fifth that should be forbidden...
Nough about them

Consider befriending the CB, and using them both as pivots, while you "are out of bounds as long as she has a BF".. (and be consistent here, take it away from her, and only allow her to be "friend" as long as she's with him.. This may play to the CB's liking)


Cheers ;)


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