Geez. Ok, so I am at the mall with a date (who is dangerously turning into a one-itis, so I will have to close or quit very soon) and just for kicks I start checking out other girls and I spot a set of 8 tourists. Most of the girls there were HB8 or so. So I tell myself "don't chicken out!! remember the 3 sec rule!!" and walk right into their table (they were eating). So I open asking whether they spoke spanish or not, they said "no, english only". Then I approach the hottest one and tell her "you know, I was like holy shit when I saw you walking in because you look exactly like my ex-girlfriend. Where are you from? "England" said she. Then I continued, "you walk, move, eat just like her. the same style and everything!! and my ex has a twin sister so there's three of you!". Now, by the gestures on her face she was like "oh...how pathetic and boring" not a word, just a forced smile on her part. So I said "see you around guys!" and left. Geez, didn't work at all uh?
I think I may have come across as a pathetic guy who sees his ex everywhere. Also, I didn't use a time constraint and my energy levels may have been just too high for someone interrupting people eating.

damm...I gotta work on this. at least I made the approach.

please comment.

Maybe you should have turned her looking like your ex into a neg? Like you eat just like her... she was always sloppy.

Hey dorian

Its always hard when your in a situation like that because you have the attention of many girls and pulling lines out is a killer! Next time you enter a set never bring up anything about an ex girlfriend as from my P.O.V they see that as being desperate and also that your mind is still hung up on her. Girls dont like that obviously.
When you open a set, make the opener interactive... and when I say this.. I mean make them reply by asking them open ended questions so they reply with something more than a "yes" or "no" or "why thank you" or "haha" etc.

You want them to say something!!! usually an opinion opener is very good as they'll reply with something like "I think..." or "I like..."

Goodluck next time and give it a shot

Finesse

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it sounds like you have the right idea, a time constraint would've given her the impression that you're not a threat and that would've chilled her out a bit. It may have helped to have avoided talking directly to her. Win her friends over, neg her a little, then show some attention, use the time constraint, maybe try to catch up with her in the mall later on and tease her about following you or some shit like that. Definately use a better routine, mentioning the ex in any way will rarely work on a girl. And get a set pattern so you can show some value. Keep up the good work though, getting through the approach alone puts you 10 steps ahead of any of the AFC's out there. Try getting a set number of approaches each day, start with 10, try and get 10 approaches every day for a week. Do that and you'll learn quickly what's working, what isn't, and what to expect. Good Luck!

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I think the big problem here is the fact that you said she looked like your ex. Not a friend from college, not your old roommate, not your old boss, but your ex-girlfriend. When opening, and even moving into your first routine, never talk about your ex-girlfriends. Talk about your CURRENT girlfriends if you like (Yeah, I've got three in Sydney, and a couple in Calgary, one in Bangladesh; she's fun...), but don't relate them to your ex. Here's why.

If a girl who looks like her, moves like her and eats like her once dated you, that means that to her Doppleganger you had Value. However, the two of you are no longer together, which means one of two things: either she dumped you, decreasing your value, or you dumped her, decreasing your value. By saying she looks just like your platonic roommate ("You two could be twins! Except... My old roommate was a guy... *strange look*"), you do not place the stigma of a past breakup into her mind. Saying she looks really familiar is a great way to start too. It's Double-Take in action.

You: (walk past her and glance at her, then look away. Then look at her with a confused look on your face) You look really familiar.
Her: I don't know you.
You: I didn't say you did. But you look JUST LIKE someone I know... I just can't figure out who. Do you have a sister?
Her: Yeah.
You: Does your sister live in (place)?
Her: Um... No.
You: (Excited now!) I know! You look just like my cat! You're so cute!

LOL, I like the cat thing. Yeah, I definetly blew this one but I was just so lost. I didn´t know what to say at all, I had n plan. All I knew was that there was this group of really hot girls with a couple of guys who looked like douchebags so they were not a problem. Besides, when girls are on vacation they don´t care about looking slutty in front of their male friends who are also fooling around with randome girls.

You know what, I am really starting to feel that to sarge is WAY easier at a club than at a regular daytime setting. This group is an example of that. Also, the other day I was introduced to a really hot girl and we were eating as a group but didn´t know how to make direct conversation with her, although I was the alpha and getting the attention.

First, I find day game way easier than club game. For me, the SPAM of a club, though sexually charged, is also a lot more closed to outside interaction. You have to have a lot of energy for club game, and I'm not the energetic type. It's work for me to be that energetic for extended periods of time. Day game is a slower process. You have to take your time and savor each step. For some guys it's easier; I think all you really need to do is slow down, and keep from rushing through the steps. Get out of your own head and focus on the interaction, and you'll find the pacing a lot easier to grasp.

Second, always have a plan. Even if you memorize a bunch of canned (not neccessarilly mainstream; your own material can be canned too) openers and routines, you should have some sort of plan going in. I have a few depending entirely on how many girls there are. If there's only one girl, I walk in with something canned, listen to her response, start a conversation, introduce myself (I realize I'm supposed to wait for her to ask, but in day game it's reassuring), and start building rapport and attraction sloooooooooooowly. Have a set of steps you follow, a structure to every interaction you get into, and you will find yourself doing way better in situations like these. And remember: ex-girlfriends = bad. The only time you're allowed to talk about your ex-girlfriend is if you inform the young lady you are with "I am about to break the rules now and talk about my ex-girlfriend," which shows her that you understand this social faux pas and have purposely chosen to ignore it in this instance.

bro u cant just walk up them and start a direct convo! That would work in a club and to some girls, but not hbs. U shouda been like "Shit, i'm pretty sure bla bla, get directions, and sit down or something." u cant approaach them in the daytime and show a remote sign of interest.

dude, the part where u mention about your ex killed your game. i am sure one of the rules of a PUA is that u never mention about your ex. Going up to a complete stranger and telling them that they look like your ex just tells them that your a creep who is still obsessed with your ex. i guess next time you can use a stronger opening which can lead to bonding with her friends first while completely ignore her.

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I don't think so guy, mentioning your ex shows you have value. It pulls up social proof. Now if you go on and on talking about your ex, yes she is gonna think that. However, if you just randomly bring it up, its not that big of a deal.

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