If you have average looks, nothing special, and you approach a girl who does'nt know who you are and start talking to her?
In that time, during the conv; what is it, fundamentally, that attracts her.
Is it DHVing
Is it being VERY confident
Is it making her laugh
Is it push and pull
Is it being not interested
Im really looking for the all the specific answers i can get or any specific references. Personally, i dont believe im attractive to women, so im trying to figure out what i have that is attractive to women and grow on that.

I would describe it as balls of steel, literally having the balls to talk to her, having the balls to not care whether she likes you or not and having the balls to be who you are and be proud of it.

as for attractiveness, looks wise it isn't important, I look like a drugged up albino mr burns yet I still do well for myself.

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Like jay said, it's all balls. I've gone out to the bar looking extremely scruffy before and done just as well as I normally do... personality and not giving a fuck is better than model-type good looks.

Have to agree on this one!

I had a good friend who passed away a while back. This guy never had any problems with HBs. Sometimes I felt I had to talk to him because he was so mean to them. So mean I would feel bad for the girl. I'd turn my back and he would be taking her home

Im fairly new to this and Ive had a few crash and burns along with some great success. Before PUA world arrived to me. I never had the idea of a girl qualifying her self to me. Things are a lot different now.

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So whats she like to drive?...does she burn much oil??.... Yeah she would if I put any in!

Confidence is a given.

Aside from confidence. Based on my analysis making a woman feel engaged and entertained is the most appealing attribute a male can posses. Of course you can't achieve this without being confident enough to control the frame and take her out of her comfort zone.

Good looks and money are tied for 3rd. They are nice to have features. Not essential requirements.

What attracts women is WIN!!!!!!

If you can project without having to say it that you are a "winner" and that you are a confident, happy and free person you can pretty much react C1 without speaking (and this comes from experience). As far as what you can really work on I would start with body language/looks as this is the best way to develop attraction without having to go into some story with a bunch of unnecessary details in it.

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im asking specifically, in the convo, what is it that gets those feelings going?

Frame. Cutting threads and not being emotionally knocked back by what she is saying. As far as actual words go, not a lot. What you are saying doesn't play a big part. Be more worried about the underlying message of what you're saying/how you're saying it.

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Your momma's so fat when she walked past the TV she was going to the kitchen to get cake 'cos she's fat.

what if she is friendly, your not in the lbjf, how do you make her like you,
what are the underlying things that attract her

so is it just the attitude you have, an aura of confidence and sexuality. is that what she is attracted too?

OK. Let me tell you about a HB from last night that turned into my target and how I develouped attraction between us. Originally she was not my intended target. This girl I used to bang has been hounding my nuts to hang out again. But she has a BF, so I told her to bring two HB's with her to the club I work at and we will hang. She did and one of them became my target. Here is a few key points.
1. Gave an immidiate IOD because she was so fine I had to lower her value.
2. Push and pulled by doing my normal BS routine or whatever
3. Got her to prove herself to me by telling her she was a bad girl and we could never be together and shit.
4. Kinoescalation. She was wearing big ass hoops that I could dive in! An excuse to touch hear ears and back of neck.
5. Dancefloor game- check out AFC Adam's physical push pull move. I fine tune it with a hair pull and soft neck kiss. You can actually hear some HB's moan when you do this. I got a neck bite last night after doing this. By now she was ready for a...
6. Number Close. BAM! Got a date for the weekend.
7. Kiss close! Bam! Letting her know we are not just friends.

My dude,
There are so many factors that make you attractive. You named a few. Let me touch on having an attractive lifesyle and DHV are very important. Dress nice man, and peacock. Be chilled the fuck out. Dont react to your environment, ENGAGE it. Dont be negative about yourself. Ya gotta be in the right state before you go sarging man. Tell yourself that you are the prize, and dont put that pussy on the pedestol. Be the man. YOU have higher value than her. Lower hers. Especially dealing with 9's and tens. Looks dont matter as long as you got the right moves. Its like selling. You gotta have a comback for every shit test. Overcome Reluctance man. Be cool.

Hope this helps!
John C

Yes.

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Your momma's so fat when she walked past the TV she was going to the kitchen to get cake 'cos she's fat.

Whats the physical push pull move on the dancefloor? Link would be great tks

OP.
I was asking the SAME EXACT QUESTIONS when I began pick up.
3 months later, I realize I was making the concept harder than it actually is.
Attraction is a merely feeling of liking someone, our community just makes it seem soo scientific and turns it into rocket science.
No, attraction is the same thing two 3rd graders feel for each other when they're "in love". Attraction is the feeling YOU get towards women.
People are attracted to FUN and ENERGY, so...
You need to change focus.
Focus not on "getting women to love me."
Focus more on yourself.
Focus on making yourself the man.
That way, you'll have men and women surrounding you of your 'confidence and aura' as stated.
But in order to achieve goals like this, you must get into the psychology of people and what they like and what they don't like.
The more you understand how we act and why we respond in certain ways, the better of a PUA you will become.

<33 Grape

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Wanna know the REAL answer?

Fuck everything you've heard. The only thing you should really be concerned about is that women are attracted to HOT PASSIONATE SEX WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.