IMO an experienced PUA doesn't have to just "run with" an upbeat feeling, especially if he uses deep rapport in his game like I oftentimes do. Instead, he takes her hand and free-falls into the depths of good feelings that penetrate the surface of "upbeat" feelings.

One of the basic tenants of pickup as founded by Ross Jeffries is that you must present a challenge to a woman. I believe you must challenge her to attain happiness on a deeper level than she's already at. Dare her to feel a different dimension of positive emotion and distinguish what you make her feel through your challenge. Explore her like a pirate exploring the vast ocean to discover uncharted territory that she was never even aware of before. This is how you leave her better than you found her.

Just to serve as an example, I sometimes use this homemade pattern. I call this my "happiness pattern."

Chief: Do you remember when we were just little kids and didn't have a care in the world? It was truly like living in the moment, wasn't it?
HB: Yeah...
Chief: I distinctly remember this one time when I was a little kid, when I first learned how to ride a bike. I was the happiest kid in the world! There I was, riding in circles all around the neighborhood nonstop as I would feel the wind in my hair and hear all the noises of other children playing passing by quickly. It was the first time I did this all by myself, without my dad behind me holding onto the seat to balance the bike. For the first time in my life I felt independent and truly FREE, you know?

In this pattern I introduced themes of carefree bliss, living in the moment, taking pleasure in your senses, independence, and freedom. By doing so I elicit these positive feelings that were not previously present in our interaction. There will always be a plethora of positive emotions to explore with every girl you interact with. Just find the ones that click with both you and her. You should never have to fall back on eliciting negative emotions to stand out from the crowd.

Perfect Chief! Thanks alot. (Y)

Chief, I dont know if this counts as an advanced question (I think it should), but how do you day game girls in foreign language?

I'm imagining this is near impossible because I would have zero verbal communication with them, especially in countries where girls just cant speak English for life. I'm afraid to go out clubbing in these countries at night because I've heard some incredibly freaky story to what happens with foreigners.

In the words of Jeffy of RSD, "DO YOU LIKE AMERICAN BILLIONAIRE???" (flash oversized peacocky ring with gigantic fake diamond)

Every urbanized country has places where international people hang out and speak English. Find these districts for an easier time. If verbal communication isn't an option, though, work with what you've got.

Actions speak louder than words. Demonstrate masculine essence through your persistence despite the language barrier. Speak through your eyes, your body language, your gestures, your tonality. Of course, using DIRECT GAME will make things a lot easier in this instance.

Don't be afraid to go to the night clubs to run some dance floor game. Approaching chicks on the dance floor and just kino escalating to a make out without saying a single word feels GREAT. When I did that it made me feel like some kinda mysterious masked lover kind of dude. Fun times. Pretend you're a dancing Zorro.

Hey chief.

Seeing that IOI's can be given off not as a sign of attraction but as sheer circumstance.

I.E. an approach invite from her strokeing her hair when she looks at you...

Fairly solid yes?

Say she was brushing her hair then looked at you while continuing. E.g. This complicates, is the hair an IOI now or is that negated by the fact it was happening when she didn't realise you were their.

Question I am asking is how valuable do you consider IOI's, do you think they are educated guess work, or an exact evaluation?

First of all, you'll never know unless you approach. If she opens very compliantly, consider it was an IOI.

However, I don't even consider IOIs in my game as a rule of thumb. Instead, I go off of three more effective measurements of how well I'm doing in set:

1. Compliance tests - The more she's compliant to my kino and other tests, the more she's into me.

2. Knowing/Projecting how I feel about her - Projecting your emotional state is inevitable. Emotions are highly contagious. If I am confident in my desire for her and if I am completely present in the moment with her, she'll inevitably start feeling the same way I do. I set myself up for success by controlling how I feel.

3. The general vibe of the interaction - Barring any social violations (read Lovedrop's "On Social Violations..." article) throwing off our perception of the vibe, I can generally be in tune with how the interaction is going and which direction it's going in without consciously looking for specific IOIs. It's all about feeling it out.

Hey Chief, I'm not sure if what I'm asking here comes under the umbrella of what your thread covers but on the first page you said that questions about the history of the community were welcome and your advice generally seems to be comprehensive, accurate and to-the-point so I decided to post ot here. If it's not a suitable question for the thread just delete it and let me know so I can post a general thread myself. Thanks and here's my question:

Could you give me a very basic breakdown of the Gunwitch Method? Nothing too complicated, just if you could tell me essentially what it is and it's place in the history of the community. I've heard it mentioned numerous times but it doesn't seem to fall into any of the usual "catagories" of styles such as NLP Based (Ross Jefferies, In10se, Swingcatt), MM Based (Venusian Arts, Love Systems, Mehow's stuff) or Natural Game (Vin DiCarlo, PUA Training). Is it compatible with any of the common "methods" out there or is it a whole system in itself?

My main reason for asking is that it's a particular area of pick-up on which I have no knowledge whatsoever and was wondering if it would be worth the effort to study it in order to incorporate elements into my own game. Thanks for any help you can give

Yes, it is most certainly worth the effort to study. What I've done for my game is to take bits and pieces from every method I've studied to find my own style.

GWM is all about getting laid while cutting through the bullshit that makes her like you as a friend or as a dancing monkey. It's essentially the bare-bones minimum of what it takes to go from meet to close in the most efficient way possible.

The main thing I took away from GWM was sexual state projection. Being in sexual state means you are in a state of controlled horniness.

You can read the whole method for free on www.gunwitch.com

From how I understand it, it basically involves:
1. Assume rapport
2. Sexual state
3. Escalate with persistence

Many people call it a direct method, but it's a bit more complex than that. How it's described in The Game by Neil Strauss is incorrect. It's not just about cavemanning and the book leads you to interpret the "Make the ho say no" motto incorrectly. It's certainly not indirect like everything out there that's MM-based, but it doesn't necessarily involve "telegraphing interest" with innuendo pickup lines or anything like that.

It's especially difficult for someone with a MM background to have an accurate understanding of GWM, so put everything you've learned aside before studying it.

Hello Chief

A little background info: There is this HB I've been building rapport a few months now. Her BF has moved way far from here. We definatelly are in comfort zone I get IOIs all the time. I (even now) have no trouble taking her out just the two of us. I see her 1-2/week anyway because of our social circle.

Prob: a couple of weeks she pulled off a k-close attempt (attempted while in very nice mood and plenty of escalating kino, even in face)

a little more of the story here how-should-i-handle-this-vt35371.html

question: How do I k-close her??

thanks

You're kidding, right?

Sorry to waste your time man.

It's just that I feel I can do 2 things

1. Keep playing but give her space and just be patient and wait.
2. Turn to SS, using NLP, which really isn't my field (at least not yet)

what would you do (if not too much to ask)

thanks

Well, if how I interpreted what you wrote was correct, she already tried to kiss you, right? If that's the case, then just go for it. Be a little more assertive than she is while using push/pull at the same time.

Now, if by "pulled off" you mean she rejected your kiss-close attempt, that's a different story! If that's the case, we need to go back to the basics.

That's the case

2 things:
1. Persistence, and
2. Game.

thanks a lot man